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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	rust-for-linux <rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kbuild mailing list <linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list\:DOCUMENTATION" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	Geoffrey Thomas <geofft@ldpreload.com>,
	Finn Behrens <me@kloenk.de>,
	Adam Bratschi-Kaye <ark.email@gmail.com>,
	Wedson Almeida Filho <wedsonaf@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/17] kallsyms: increase maximum kernel symbol length to 512
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 15:48:53 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a6mo1v0q.fsf@disp2133> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=whdi_biEOrzrYn7OC+wq+ckoaa5dFAATdM=n9P7Dp0YOA@mail.gmail.com> (Linus Torvalds's message of "Wed, 14 Jul 2021 13:21:57 -0700")

Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> writes:

> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 1:09 PM Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
>>
>> Are you thinking the hashed kernel symbols need to have their types
>> included in the hash?
>
> I think the hash should be the whole mangled name. So yes, for Rust
> symbols they'd have the the type information.

Sorry I was meaning to ask should the C symbols that get hashed
include their types in the hash as well?  Because if everything
is going to be hashed we need to clear definition of what we do
with good old C symbols as well.

>>  Or is this just a hash to make the names a managable size?
>
> No, if that was the only point of it, the "just use two bytes for
> length" would be simpler.
>
> But I don't think we want to do run-time de-mangling of names in the
> kernel when doing stack traces, which implies that the kallsym
> information in the kernel should be the de-mangled names.
>
> That makes the names nice and readable, and also makes this "maximum
> symbol length" thing a non-issue.
>
> BUT.
>
> It also means that you can't use those names for linking purposes, so
> you'd then need to have a "full version" for that. But as Willy
> pointed out elsewhere, you might as well just use a constant-sized
> hash for that, rather than have both a manged and a de-mangled name.

Just to clarify.  We want this for the C symbols as well?

Eric


  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-14 20:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-04 20:27 [PATCH 00/17] Rust support ojeda
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 01/17] kallsyms: support big kernel symbols (2-byte lengths) ojeda
2021-07-04 20:52   ` Linus Torvalds
2021-07-04 21:15     ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-07-04 21:28       ` Linus Torvalds
2021-07-04 21:04   ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-07-04 21:17     ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-07-04 21:33       ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-07-04 21:49         ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-07-04 22:07           ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-07-04 22:20         ` Gary Guo
2021-07-04 22:42           ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-07-04 23:14             ` Gary Guo
2021-07-13 18:02             ` Kent Overstreet
2021-07-04 21:20     ` Gary Guo
2021-07-05  4:35       ` Willy Tarreau
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 02/17] kallsyms: increase maximum kernel symbol length to 512 ojeda
2021-07-14 18:20   ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-07-14 19:04     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-07-14 20:09       ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-07-14 20:21         ` Linus Torvalds
2021-07-14 20:48           ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2021-07-14 22:40             ` Linus Torvalds
2021-07-14 20:19     ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 03/17] Makefile: generate `CLANG_FLAGS` even in GCC builds ojeda
2021-07-14 18:13   ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-07-14 18:16     ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-07-14 20:31     ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 04/17] vsprintf: add new `%pA` format specifier ojeda
2021-07-07 20:31   ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-07-07 22:33     ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 05/17] rust: add C helpers ojeda
2021-07-07 10:19   ` Marco Elver
2021-07-09 10:31     ` Marco Elver
2021-07-09 14:32     ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 06/17] rust: add `compiler_builtins` crate ojeda
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 07/17] rust: add `alloc` crate ojeda
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 08/17] rust: add `build_error` crate ojeda
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 09/17] rust: add `macros` crate ojeda
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 10/17] rust: add `kernel` crate ojeda
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 11/17] rust: export generated symbols ojeda
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 12/17] Kbuild: add Rust support ojeda
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 13/17] docs: add Rust documentation ojeda
2021-07-05  5:02   ` Willy Tarreau
2021-07-06  0:06     ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-07-06  2:09       ` Willy Tarreau
2021-07-14 18:37   ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-07-14 19:55     ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 14/17] samples: add Rust examples ojeda
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 15/17] scripts: add `generate_rust_analyzer.py` ojeda
2021-07-05  5:05   ` Willy Tarreau
2021-07-05 23:41     ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [PATCH 16/17] MAINTAINERS: Rust ojeda
2021-07-06  0:26   ` Pedro Tammela
2021-07-06 22:14     ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-07-04 20:27 ` [RFC PATCH 17/17] Android: Binder IPC in Rust (WIP) ojeda
2021-07-04 23:11 ` [PATCH 00/17] Rust support Miguel Ojeda
2021-07-07  6:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-07-07 12:33   ` Miguel Ojeda
2021-07-07 12:50     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-07-07 14:07       ` Wedson Almeida Filho
2021-07-07 14:12         ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-07-07 15:02         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-07-07 20:56           ` Finn Behrens
2021-07-08  0:58             ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-07-08  6:39               ` [PATCH 00/17] Rust support, NVMe Geert Stappers
2021-07-08  8:29                 ` Finn Behrens
2021-07-22 22:55               ` [PATCH 00/17] Rust support Wedson Almeida Filho
2021-07-23  1:17                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-07-23 11:33                   ` [PATCH 00/17] Rust support, GPIO driver Geert Stappers
2021-07-23 15:08                 ` [PATCH 00/17] Rust support Keith Busch
2021-07-07 10:51 ` Marco Elver
2021-07-07 11:28   ` Miguel Ojeda

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