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From: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
To: Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-block@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/18] qemu-io: Add background write
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 19:53:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87b2b2f4-ecc0-3436-a5af-6d2c9d858b8f@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170918064613.GG15551@lemon.lan>

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On 2017-09-18 08:46, Fam Zheng wrote:
> On Wed, 09/13 20:19, Max Reitz wrote:
>> Add a new parameter -B to qemu-io's write command.  When used, qemu-io
>> will not wait for the result of the operation and instead execute it in
>> the background.
> 
> Cannot aio_write be used for this purpose?

Depends.  I have been trained to dislike *_aio_*, so that's probably the
initial reason why I didn't use it.

Second, I'd have to fix aio_write before it can be used.  Currently,
this aborts:

echo 'qemu-io drv0 "aio_write -P 0x11 0 64M"' \
    | x86_64-softmmu/qemu-system-x86_64 -monitor stdio \
          -blockdev node-name=drv0,driver=null-co

because aio_write_done thinks it's a good idea to use qemu-io's
BlockBackend -- but when qemu-io is executed through the HMP, the
BlockBackend is only created for the duration of the qemu-io command
(unless there already is a BB).  So what I'd have to do is add a
blk_ref()/blk_unref() there, but for some reason I really don't like that.

So I'd probably have to give up on using -blockdev in the new iotest and
would have to use -drive again.
(Note: With if=none, it still aborts while doing the block accounting,
and I have looked long enough into it to just decide I'd go with
if=virtio instead.)

So, yes, it appears I can use aio_write, together with -drive if=virtio
instead of -blockdev.

The remaining difference is the following: With aio_write, all writes
come from the same BlockBackend, and they are really asynchronous.
That's nice because it's like a guest behaves.

With write -B, they come from different BBs and the BB is usually
already gone when the write is completed -- or maybe destroying the BB
means that everything is flushed and thus the writes are not necessarily
asynchronous.  That doesn't seem so nice, but this behavior made me
write patch 13, so maybe it actually is a good idea to test this.

So I'm a bit torn.  On one hand it seems to be a good idea to use
aio_write because that's already there and it's good enough to simulate
a guest.  But on the other hand, write -B gives a bit more funny
behavior which in my opinion is always good for a test...

Max


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  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-18 17:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-13 18:18 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/18] block/mirror: Add active-sync mirroring Max Reitz
2017-09-13 18:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/18] block: Add BdrvDeletedStatus Max Reitz
2017-09-13 18:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/18] block: BDS deletion during bdrv_drain_recurse Max Reitz
2017-09-18  3:44   ` Fam Zheng
2017-09-18 16:13     ` Max Reitz
2017-10-09 18:30       ` Max Reitz
2017-10-10  8:36   ` Kevin Wolf
2017-10-11 11:41     ` Max Reitz
2017-09-13 18:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/18] blockjob: Make drained_{begin, end} public Max Reitz
2017-09-18  3:46   ` Fam Zheng
2017-09-13 18:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/18] block/mirror: Pull out mirror_perform() Max Reitz
2017-09-18  3:48   ` Fam Zheng
2017-09-25  9:38   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-09-13 18:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/18] block/mirror: Convert to coroutines Max Reitz
2017-09-18  6:02   ` Fam Zheng
2017-09-18 16:41     ` Max Reitz
2017-10-10  9:14   ` Kevin Wolf
2017-10-11 11:43     ` Max Reitz
2017-09-13 18:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/18] block/mirror: Use CoQueue to wait on in-flight ops Max Reitz
2017-09-13 18:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/18] block/mirror: Wait for in-flight op conflicts Max Reitz
2017-09-13 18:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/18] block/mirror: Use source as a BdrvChild Max Reitz
2017-10-10  9:27   ` Kevin Wolf
2017-10-11 11:46     ` Max Reitz
2017-09-13 18:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/18] block: Generalize should_update_child() rule Max Reitz
2017-09-13 18:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/18] block/mirror: Make source the file child Max Reitz
2017-10-10  9:47   ` Kevin Wolf
2017-10-11 12:02     ` Max Reitz
2017-09-13 18:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/18] hbitmap: Add @advance param to hbitmap_iter_next() Max Reitz
2017-09-25 15:38   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-09-25 20:40     ` Max Reitz
2017-09-13 18:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/18] block/dirty-bitmap: Add bdrv_dirty_iter_next_area Max Reitz
2017-09-25 15:49   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-09-25 20:43     ` Max Reitz
2017-10-02 13:32     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-09-13 18:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/18] block/mirror: Keep write perm for pending writes Max Reitz
2017-10-10  9:58   ` Kevin Wolf
2017-10-11 12:20     ` Max Reitz
2017-09-13 18:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/18] block/mirror: Distinguish active from passive ops Max Reitz
2017-09-13 18:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/18] block/mirror: Add active mirroring Max Reitz
2017-09-14 15:57   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-16 13:58     ` Max Reitz
2017-09-18 10:06       ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-18 16:26         ` Max Reitz
2017-09-19  9:44           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-19  9:57             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-20 14:56               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-10-10 10:16           ` Kevin Wolf
2017-10-11 12:33             ` Max Reitz
2017-09-13 18:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/18] block/mirror: Add copy mode QAPI interface Max Reitz
2017-09-13 18:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/18] qemu-io: Add background write Max Reitz
2017-09-18  6:46   ` Fam Zheng
2017-09-18 17:53     ` Max Reitz [this message]
2017-09-19  8:03       ` Fam Zheng
2017-09-21 14:40         ` Max Reitz
2017-09-21 14:59           ` Fam Zheng
2017-09-21 15:03             ` Max Reitz
2017-09-13 18:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/18] iotests: Add test for active mirroring Max Reitz
2017-09-18  6:45   ` Fam Zheng
2017-09-18 16:53     ` Max Reitz
2017-09-19  8:08       ` Fam Zheng
2017-09-14 15:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/18] block/mirror: Add active-sync mirroring Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-16 14:02   ` Max Reitz
2017-09-18 10:02     ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-18 15:42       ` Max Reitz

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