From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752920AbdC0Neq (ORCPT ); Mon, 27 Mar 2017 09:34:46 -0400 Received: from mx2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:59049 "EHLO mx2.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752432AbdC0Nek (ORCPT ); Mon, 27 Mar 2017 09:34:40 -0400 Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 untested] kvm: better MWAIT emulation for guests To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <1489612895-12799-1-git-send-email-mst@redhat.com> Cc: "Gabriel L. Somlo" , Paolo Bonzini , =?UTF-8?B?UmFkaW0gS3LEjW3DocWZ?= , Jonathan Corbet , Thomas Gleixner , Ingo Molnar , "H. Peter Anvin" , x86@kernel.org, Joerg Roedel , kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org From: Alexander Graf Message-ID: <87f187de-64ef-22a2-7714-a811883bce02@suse.de> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 15:34:34 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1489612895-12799-1-git-send-email-mst@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 15/03/2017 22:22, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > Guests running Mac OS 5, 6, and 7 (Leopard through Lion) have a problem: > unless explicitly provided with kernel command line argument > "idlehalt=0" they'd implicitly assume MONITOR and MWAIT availability, > without checking CPUID. > > We currently emulate that as a NOP but on VMX we can do better: let > guest stop the CPU until timer, IPI or memory change. CPU will be busy > but that isn't any worse than a NOP emulation. > > Note that mwait within guests is not the same as on real hardware > because halt causes an exit while mwait doesn't. For this reason it > might not be a good idea to use the regular MWAIT flag in CPUID to > signal this capability. Add a flag in the hypervisor leaf instead. So imagine we had proper MWAIT emulation capabilities based on page faults. In that case, we could do something as fancy as Treat MWAIT as pass-through by default Have a per-vcpu monitor timer 10 times a second in the background that checks which instruction we're in If we're in mwait for the last - say - 1 second, switch to emulated MWAIT, if $IP was in non-mwait within that time, reset counter. Or instead maybe just reuse the adapter hlt logic? Either way, with that we should be able to get super low latency IPIs running while still maintaining some sanity on systems which don't have dedicated CPUs for workloads. And we wouldn't need guest modifications, which is a great plus. So older guests (and Windows?) could benefit from mwait as well. Alex