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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	d9ba@mailtor.net, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Harmful LESS flags
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 00:44:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ha5i9wkp.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140424221308.GA15061@sigill.intra.peff.net> (Jeff King's message of "Thu, 24 Apr 2014 18:13:08 -0400")

Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:

> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 11:48:30PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
>
>> > I really think the right solution here is to teach less to make it more
>> > obvious that there is something worth scrolling over to. Here's a very
>> > rough patch for less, if you want to see what I'm thinking of.
>> 
>> Still useless.  I'm not actually interested in a more prominent "I could
>> be useful" indicator.
>
> So don't set -S, then.

I don't.  Git does it unasked for.

> There are two questions here:
>
>   1. Can less do a better job of indicating what's in the input when -S
>      is in effect?
>
>   2. What should get put into $LESS by default?
>
> I was specifically addressing (1). Your comment does not help at all
> there.
>
> It could have an impact on (2), but you didn't say anything besides "I
> don't like it". That doesn't add anything to the conversation.

No, I said it is useless, which is different from "I don't like it".
The information is not copy&pastable from a terminal window since it is
cut off.  It is also useless for review since one does not actually know
what's in there.  The only thing it has going for it is that it's
prettier than the actually usable information.  Which might sometimes be
nice if one is not interested overly in the payload, like when using
--graph.  But then even a graph display wants to get copy&pasted into
windows with a different size from the terminal window, like in
<URL:http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3723#c7>.

-- 
David Kastrup

  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-24 22:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-23 23:46 Harmful LESS flags d9ba
2014-04-24  0:11 ` Jonathan Nieder
2014-04-28 21:38   ` Mark Nudelman
2014-04-24  5:06 ` David Kastrup
2014-04-24 19:02   ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-24 19:21     ` David Kastrup
2014-04-24 19:29       ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-24 19:50         ` David Kastrup
2014-04-24 21:35         ` Jeff King
2014-04-24 21:47           ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-24 22:02             ` Jeff King
2014-04-24 21:48           ` David Kastrup
2014-04-24 22:13             ` Jeff King
2014-04-24 22:44               ` David Kastrup [this message]
2014-04-24 23:08                 ` Jonathan Nieder
2014-04-25  6:56     ` Matthieu Moy
2014-04-25 15:11       ` Jonathan Nieder
2014-04-25 15:32         ` David Kastrup
2014-04-25 15:47           ` Jonathan Nieder
2014-04-28  8:34             ` [PATCH] PAGER_ENV: remove 'S' from $LESS by default Matthieu Moy
2014-04-28  8:43               ` David Kastrup
2014-04-28  8:59                 ` Matthieu Moy
2014-04-28  9:14                   ` David Kastrup
2014-04-28 12:22                     ` Matthieu Moy
2014-04-28 16:24                       ` Jeff King
2014-04-28 18:48                         ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-29 12:29                           ` Matthieu Moy
2014-04-29 17:01                             ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-30  7:35                               ` [PATCH v2] pager: " Matthieu Moy
2014-04-30 15:38                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2014-04-30 15:49                                   ` Matthieu Moy
2014-04-30 17:34                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2014-05-05 18:44                                 ` Jonathan Nieder
2014-05-05 20:10                                   ` Matthieu Moy
2014-05-06 17:34                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2014-05-06 18:00                                       ` David Kastrup
2014-05-06 18:49                                         ` Matthieu Moy
2014-05-06 21:55                                           ` Jeff King
2014-05-07 17:07                                             ` Junio C Hamano
2014-05-07 17:54                                               ` Matthieu Moy
2014-05-07 20:42                                                 ` Junio C Hamano

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