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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, pkrempa@redhat.com, berrange@redhat.com,
	ehabkost@redhat.com, qemu-block@nongnu.org,
	libvir-list@redhat.com, dim@virtuozzo.com, igor@virtuozzo.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, mreitz@redhat.com, yur@virtuozzo.com,
	nshirokovskiy@virtuozzo.com, stefanha@redhat.com, den@openvz.org,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, eblake@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 8/8] qapi: add blockdev-replace command
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 08:44:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ilyv4ugk.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210802185416.50877-9-vsementsov@virtuozzo.com> (Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy's message of "Mon, 2 Aug 2021 21:54:16 +0300")

Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com> writes:

> Add command that can add and remove filters.
>
> Key points of functionality:
>
> What the command does is simply replace some BdrvChild.bs by some other
> nodes. The tricky thing is selecting there BdrvChild objects.
> To be able to select any kind of BdrvChild we use a generic parent_id,
> which may be a node-name, or qdev id or block export id. In future we
> may support block jobs.
>
> Any kind of ambiguity leads to error. If we have both device named
> device0 and block export named device0 and they both point to same BDS,
> user can't replace root child of one of these parents. So, to be able
> to do replacements, user should avoid duplicating names in different
> parent namespaces.
>
> So, command allows to replace any single child in the graph.
>
> On the other hand we want to realize a kind of bdrv_replace_node(),
> which works well when we want to replace all parents of some node. For
> this kind of task @parents-mode argument implemented.
>
> Signed-off-by: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
> ---
>  qapi/block-core.json | 78 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  block.c              | 82 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  2 files changed, 160 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/qapi/block-core.json b/qapi/block-core.json
> index 675d8265eb..8059b96341 100644
> --- a/qapi/block-core.json
> +++ b/qapi/block-core.json
> @@ -5433,3 +5433,81 @@
>  { 'command': 'blockdev-snapshot-delete-internal-sync',
>    'data': { 'device': 'str', '*id': 'str', '*name': 'str'},
>    'returns': 'SnapshotInfo' }
> +
> +##
> +# @BlockdevReplaceParentsMode:
> +#
> +# Alternative (to directly set @parent) way to chose parents in
> +# @blockdev-replace
> +#
> +# @exactly-one: Exactly one parent should match a condition, otherwise
> +#               @blockdev-replace fails.
> +#
> +# @all: All matching parents are taken into account. If replacing lead
> +#       to loops in block graph, @blockdev-replace fails.
> +#
> +# @auto: Same as @all, but automatically skip replacing parents if it
> +#        leads to loops in block graph.
> +#
> +# Since: 6.2
> +##
> +{ 'enum': 'BlockdevReplaceParentsMode',
> +  'data': ['exactly-one', 'all', 'auto'] }
> +
> +##
> +# @BlockdevReplace:
> +#
> +# Declaration of one replacement.

Replacement of what?  A node in the block graph?

> +#
> +# @parent: id of parent. It may be qdev or block export or simple
> +#          node-name.

It may also be a QOM path, because find_device_state() interprets
arguments starting with '/' as QOM paths.

When is a node name "simple"?

Suggest: It may be a qdev ID, a QOM path, a block export ID, or a node
name.

The trouble is of course that we're merging three separate name spaces.

Aside: a single name space for IDs would be so much saner, but we
screwed that up long ago.

>                        If id is ambiguous (for example node-name of
> +#          some BDS equals to block export name), blockdev-replace
> +#          fails.

Is there a way out of this situation, or are is replacement simply
impossible then?

>                    If not specified, blockdev-replace goes through
> +#          @parents-mode scenario, see below. Note, that @parent and
> +#          @parents-mode can't be specified simultaneously.

What if neither is specified?  Hmm, @parents-mode has a default, so
that's what we get.

> +#          If @parent is specified, only one edge is selected. If
> +#          several edges match the condition, blockdev-replace fails.
> +#
> +# @edge: name of the child. If omitted, any child name matches.
> +#
> +# @child: node-name of the child. If omitted, any child matches.
> +#         Must be present if @parent is not specified.

Is @child useful when @parent is present?

What's the difference between "name of the child" and "node name of the
child"?

> +#
> +# @parents-mode: declares how to select edge (or edges) when @parent
> +#                is omitted. Default is 'one'.

'exactly-one'

Minor combinatorial explosion.  There are four optional arguments, one
of them an enum, and only some combination of argument presence and enum
value are valid.  For a serious review, I'd have to make a table of
combinations, then think through every valid row.

Have you considered making this type a union?  Can turn some of your
semantic constraints into syntactical ones.  Say you turn
BlockdevReplaceParentsMode into a tag enum by adding value 'by-id'.
Then branch 'by-id' has member @parent, and the others don't.

> +#
> +# Since: 6.2
> +#
> +# Examples:
> +#
> +# 1. Change root node of some device.
> +#
> +# Note, that @edge name is omitted, as

Scratch "name".

Odd line break.

> +# devices always has only one child. As well, no need in specifying
> +# old @child.

"the old @child".

> +#
> +# -> { "parent": "device0", "new-child": "some-node-name" }
> +#
> +# 2. Insert copy-before-write filter.
> +#
> +# Assume, after blockdev-add we have block-node 'source', with several
> +# writing parents and one copy-before-write 'filter' parent. And we want
> +# to actually insert the filter. We do:
> +#
> +# -> { "child": "source", "parent-mode": "auto", "new-child": "filter" }
> +#
> +# All parents of source would be switched to 'filter' node, except for
> +# 'filter' node itself (otherwise, it will make a loop in block-graph).

Good examples.  I think we need more, to give us an idea on the use
cases for the combinatorial explosion.  I need to know them to be able
to review the interface.

> +##
> +{ 'struct': 'BlockdevReplace',
> +  'data': { '*parent': 'str', '*edge': 'str', '*child': 'str',
> +            '*parents-mode': 'BlockdevReplaceParentsMode',
> +            'new-child': 'str' } }
> +
> +##
> +# @blockdev-replace:
> +#
> +# Do one or several replacements transactionally.
> +##
> +{ 'command': 'blockdev-replace',
> +  'data': { 'replacements': ['BlockdevReplace'] } }

Ignorant question: integration with transaction.json makes no sense?

[...]



  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-20  6:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-02 18:54 [PATCH RFC 0/8] blockdev-replace Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-08-02 18:54 ` [PATCH 1/8] block-backend: blk_root(): drop const specifier on return type Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-08-02 18:54 ` [PATCH 2/8] block: add BlockParentClass class Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-09-16  8:34   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-09-16 10:12     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-09-20  5:28   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-08-02 18:54 ` [PATCH 3/8] block: realize BlockParentClass for BlockDriverState Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-08-02 18:54 ` [PATCH 4/8] block/export: realize BlockParentClass functionality Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-08-02 18:54 ` [PATCH 5/8] qdev: improve find_device_state() to distinguish simple not found case Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-09-16 10:48   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-09-16 12:54     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-08-02 18:54 ` [PATCH 6/8] qdev: realize BlockParentClass Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-09-20  6:08   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-08-02 18:54 ` [PATCH 7/8] block: improve bdrv_replace_node_noperm() Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-08-02 18:54 ` [PATCH 8/8] qapi: add blockdev-replace command Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-09-20  6:44   ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2021-09-20 10:02     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-09-23 10:09       ` Markus Armbruster
2021-09-23 11:54         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-09-20 11:25   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-09-02  9:28 ` [PATCH RFC 0/8] blockdev-replace Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy

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