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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Johannes Sixt <j6t@kdbg.org>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>, Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>,
	Nix <nix@esperi.org.uk>, Steven Grimm <koreth@midwinter.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: What's so special about objects/17/ ?
Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2018 21:06:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87in2da862.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f64b5c5d-ef72-a347-bd0f-7b1669a8c10d@kdbg.org>


On Sun, Oct 07 2018, Johannes Sixt wrote:

> Am 07.10.18 um 20:28 schrieb Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason:
>> In 2007 Junio wrote
>> (https://public-inbox.org/git/7vr6lcj2zi.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org/):
>>
>>      +static int need_to_gc(void)
>>      +{
>>      +	/*
>>      +	 * Quickly check if a "gc" is needed, by estimating how
>>      +	 * many loose objects there are.  Because SHA-1 is evenly
>>      +	 * distributed, we can check only one and get a reasonable
>>      +	 * estimate.
>>      +	 */
>
>> 1. We still have this check of objects/17/ in builtin/gc.c today. Why
>>     objects/17/ and not e.g. objects/00/ to go with other 000* magic such
>>     as the 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 SHA-1?  Statistically
>>     it doesn't matter, but 17 seems like an odd thing to pick at random
>>     out of 00..ff, does it have any significance?
>
> The reason is explained in the comment. And, BTW, you do know about
> this one: https://xkcd.com/221/ don't you? (TLDR: the title is "Random
> Number")

Picking any one number is explained in the comment. I'm asking why 17 in
particular not for correctness reasons but as a bit of historical lore,
and because my ulterior is to improve the GC docs.

The number in that comic is 4 (and no datestamp on when it was
published). Are you saying Junio's patch is somehow a reference to that
xkcd in particular, or that it's just a funny reference in this context?

>> 2. It seems overly paranoid to be checking that the files in
>>    .git/objects/17/ look like a SHA-1. If we have stuff not generated by
>>    git in .git/objects/??/ we probably have bigger problems than
>>    prematurely triggering auto gc, can this just be removed as
>>    redundant. Was this some check e.g. expecting that this would need to
>>    deal with tempfiles in these directories that we created at the time
>>    (but no longer do?)?
>
> It's not about that there are SHA-1s in there, it's about how many
> there are.

Right, I'm wondering if it couldn't be replaced by some general path.c
"number_of_files_in_dir" helper. I.e. why this code is being paranoid
about ignoring the likes of
.git/objects/17/{foo,bar,some-other-garbage}. A number_of_files_in_dir()
would obviously need to ignore "." and "..".

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-07 19:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-05  7:09 People unaware of the importance of "git gc"? Linus Torvalds
2007-09-05  7:21 ` Martin Langhoff
2007-09-05  7:37   ` Karl Hasselström
2007-09-05  7:30 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-09-05  7:26   ` Tomash Brechko
2007-09-05  8:13   ` Johan Herland
2007-09-05  8:39     ` Matthieu Moy
2007-09-05  8:41       ` Johan Herland
2007-09-05  8:47         ` David Kastrup
2007-09-05  8:51       ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-09-05  9:02         ` David Kastrup
2007-09-05  9:04         ` Matthieu Moy
2007-09-05  8:51   ` Wincent Colaiuta
2007-09-05  7:42 ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-09-05  8:16   ` Junio C Hamano
2007-09-05  8:50   ` Steven Grimm
     [not found]     ` <86ps0xcwxo.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz>
2007-09-05  9:07       ` Steven Grimm
2007-09-05  9:13         ` David Kastrup
2007-09-05  9:07     ` Junio C Hamano
2007-09-05  9:27       ` Martin Langhoff
2007-09-05  9:33         ` Matthieu Moy
2007-09-05 14:17           ` Johan De Messemaeker
2007-09-05 17:31             ` Matthieu Moy
2007-09-05 23:56               ` Jeff King
2007-09-05  9:13     ` David Kastrup
2007-09-05  9:14     ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-09-05 17:51   ` Nix
2007-09-05 18:14     ` Steven Grimm
2007-09-05 18:22       ` Nix
2007-09-05 18:54         ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-09-05 20:01           ` Junio C Hamano
2007-09-05 20:35             ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-09-05 21:14               ` Nix
2007-09-05 21:46               ` Junio C Hamano
2007-09-05 23:04                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-09-05 23:42                   ` Junio C Hamano
2007-09-06  0:27                     ` Carlos Rica
2007-09-06  5:55                 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-05 21:49               ` Junio C Hamano
2007-09-05 21:59                 ` Invoke "git gc --auto" from commit, merge, am and rebase Junio C Hamano
2007-09-06  2:39                   ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-09-05 20:37             ` [PATCH] Invoke "git gc --auto" from "git add" and "git fetch" Junio C Hamano
     [not found]               ` <69b0c0350709051357ifa547aarfe3e0b36cf9be98f@mail.gmail.com>
2007-09-05 20:59                 ` Fwd: " Govind Salinas
2007-09-06 12:02               ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-09-05 21:18             ` People unaware of the importance of "git gc"? Alex Riesen
2007-09-06  2:44             ` Russ Dill
2007-09-06  2:52               ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-09-06  9:28               ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-09-06  2:45             ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-09-06  2:49               ` Steven Grimm
2007-09-06  2:56                 ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-09-06 15:54             ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-09-06 17:49               ` Junio C Hamano
2007-09-06 18:15                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-09-06 18:29                   ` Steven Grimm
2007-09-06 23:12                   ` Subject: [PATCH] git-merge-pack Junio C Hamano
2007-09-06 23:35                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-09-07  0:51                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-09-07  1:58                       ` Junio C Hamano
2007-09-07  2:32                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-09-07  4:07                       ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-09-07  4:43                       ` Junio C Hamano
2007-09-08  9:50                         ` [PATCH] make sha1_file.c::matches_pack_name() available to others Junio C Hamano
2007-09-08 10:01                         ` [PATCH] pack-objects --repack-unpacked Junio C Hamano
2007-09-07  7:11                     ` Subject: [PATCH] git-merge-pack Johannes Sixt
2007-09-07  7:34                       ` Junio C Hamano
2007-09-07  7:24                     ` Andy Parkins
2007-09-07  4:48                 ` People unaware of the importance of "git gc"? Shawn O. Pearce
2007-09-07 10:12                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2018-10-07 18:28           ` What's so special about objects/17/ ? Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-07 18:35             ` Johannes Sixt
2018-10-07 19:06               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2018-10-07 22:39                 ` Johannes Sixt
2018-10-08  0:54                   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-07 19:46             ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-07 20:07               ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-08 19:17                 ` Stefan Beller
2018-10-09  1:03                   ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-09 17:37                     ` Stefan Beller
2018-10-10  1:10                       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-10 19:08                         ` Stefan Beller
2018-10-08 10:36               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-09  1:07                 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-09 17:40                   ` Stefan Beller
2007-09-05  8:16 ` People unaware of the importance of "git gc"? David Kastrup
2007-09-05 16:47 ` Govind Salinas
2007-09-05 17:19   ` Carl Worth
2007-09-05 17:55     ` Jing Xue
2007-09-05 17:35   ` Steven Grimm
2007-09-05 18:28     ` Nix
2007-09-05 17:44 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-09-05 18:46   ` Brandon Casey
2007-09-05 19:09     ` David Kastrup
2007-09-05 19:13       ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-09-05 19:43         ` David Kastrup
2007-09-05 19:20       ` Mike Hommey
2007-09-05 21:07 ` Alex Riesen

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