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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Nitesh Lal <nilal@redhat.com>,
	Nicolas Saenz Julienne <nsaenzju@redhat.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Alex Belits <abelits@belits.com>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
	Oscar Shiang <oscar0225@livemail.tw>
Subject: Re: [patch v12 13/13] task isolation: only TIF_TASK_ISOL if task isolation is enabled
Date: Wed, 04 May 2022 15:03:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k0b1jvpn.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YnF+lbxJXiQMbS/a@fuller.cnet>

On Tue, May 03 2022 at 16:12, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 09:45:54AM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> It seems to be inline with the remaining TIF_ bits:
>
>                 if (ti_work & _TIF_NOTIFY_RESUME)
>                         tracehook_notify_resume(regs);
>
> +               if (ti_work & _TIF_TASK_ISOL)
> +                       task_isol_exit_to_user_mode();
> +
>
>
> And there is even:

I know that the bit is defined, but that does still not make an argument.

> By looking at the code, we see the sites where this bit is set are:

Again. I'm able to read the patches myself.

> Would you prefer an explanation, in words, when these bits are set, when
> they are cleared?

No. The point is that contrary to TIF_NOTIFY_RESUME and other TIF bits,
this is going to end up being sprinkled all over the place.

With the current vmstat quiesce that's limited, but it's bound to
increase and spread simply because the whole thing has no semantics and
it's all headed to be adhoc cure for the isolation itch of the day.

Thanks,

        tglx


  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-04 13:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-15 15:31 [patch v12 00/13] extensible prctl task isolation interface and vmstat sync Marcelo Tosatti
2022-03-15 15:31 ` [patch v12 01/13] s390: add support for TIF_TASK_ISOL Marcelo Tosatti
2022-03-15 15:31 ` [patch v12 02/13] x86: " Marcelo Tosatti
2022-03-15 15:31 ` [patch v12 03/13] add basic task isolation prctl interface Marcelo Tosatti
2022-04-25 22:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-03-15 15:31 ` [patch v12 04/13] add prctl task isolation prctl docs and samples Marcelo Tosatti
2022-04-26  0:15   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-03-15 15:31 ` [patch v12 05/13] task isolation: sync vmstats on return to userspace Marcelo Tosatti
2022-04-25 23:06   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-04-27  6:56   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-03-15 15:31 ` [patch v12 06/13] procfs: add per-pid task isolation state Marcelo Tosatti
2022-04-25 23:27   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-03-15 15:31 ` [patch v12 07/13] task isolation: sync vmstats conditional on changes Marcelo Tosatti
2022-03-17 14:51   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-04-27  8:03   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-03-15 15:31 ` [patch v12 08/13] task isolation: enable return to userspace processing Marcelo Tosatti
2022-03-15 15:31 ` [patch v12 09/13] task isolation: add preempt notifier to sync per-CPU vmstat dirty info to thread info Marcelo Tosatti
2022-03-16  2:41   ` Oscar Shiang
2022-04-27  7:11   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-04-27 12:09     ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-04 16:32       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2022-05-04 17:39         ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-03-15 15:31 ` [patch v12 10/13] KVM: x86: process isolation work from VM-entry code path Marcelo Tosatti
2022-03-15 15:31 ` [patch v12 11/13] mm: vmstat: move need_update Marcelo Tosatti
2022-03-15 15:31 ` [patch v12 12/13] mm: vmstat_refresh: avoid queueing work item if cpu stats are clean Marcelo Tosatti
2022-04-27  7:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-03 19:17     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2022-03-15 15:31 ` [patch v12 13/13] task isolation: only TIF_TASK_ISOL if task isolation is enabled Marcelo Tosatti
2022-04-27  7:45   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-03 19:12     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2022-05-04 13:03       ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2022-03-17 15:08 ` [patch v12 00/13] extensible prctl task isolation interface and vmstat sync Frederic Weisbecker
2022-04-25 16:29   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2022-04-25 21:12     ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-03 18:57       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2022-04-27  9:19 ` Christoph Lameter
2022-05-03 18:57   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2022-05-04 13:20     ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-04 18:56       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2022-05-04 20:15         ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-05-05 16:52           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2022-06-01 16:14             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2022-05-04 17:01 ` Tim Chen
2022-05-04 20:08   ` Marcelo Tosatti

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