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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: "SZEDER Gábor" <szeder.dev@gmail.com>
Cc: "Derrick Stolee" <stolee@gmail.com>,
	"Git List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy" <pclouds@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: We should add a "git gc --auto" after "git clone" due to commit graph
Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2018 17:19:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87murvgir6.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181003145308.GP23446@localhost>


On Wed, Oct 03 2018, SZEDER Gábor wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 03, 2018 at 04:22:12PM +0200, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 03 2018, SZEDER Gábor wrote:
>>
>> > On Wed, Oct 03, 2018 at 04:01:40PM +0200, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Oct 03 2018, SZEDER Gábor wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Wed, Oct 03, 2018 at 03:23:57PM +0200, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>> >> >> Don't have time to patch this now, but thought I'd send a note / RFC
>> >> >> about this.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Now that we have the commit graph it's nice to be able to set
>> >> >> e.g. core.commitGraph=true & gc.writeCommitGraph=true in ~/.gitconfig or
>> >> >> /etc/gitconfig to apply them to all repos.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> But when I clone e.g. linux.git stuff like 'tag --contains' will be slow
>> >> >> until whenever my first "gc" kicks in, which may be quite some time if
>> >> >> I'm just using it passively.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So we should make "git gc --auto" be run on clone,
>> >> >
>> >> > There is no garbage after 'git clone'...
>> >>
>> >> "git gc" is really "git gc-or-create-indexes" these days.
>> >
>> > Because it happens to be convenient to create those indexes at
>> > gc-time.  But that should not be an excuse to run gc when by
>> > definition no gc is needed.
>>
>> Ah, I thought you just had an objection to the "gc" name being used for
>> non-gc stuff,
>
> But you thought right, I do have an objection against that.  'git gc'
> should, well, collect garbage.  Any non-gc stuff is already violating
> separation of concerns.

Ever since git-gc was added back in 30f610b7b0 ("Create 'git gc' to
perform common maintenance operations.", 2006-12-27) it has been
described as:

    git-gc - Cleanup unnecessary files and optimize the local repository

Creating these indexes like the commit-graph falls under "optimize the
local repository", and 3rd party tools (e.g. the repo tool doing this
came up on list recently) have been calling "gc --auto" with this
assumption.

>>  but if you mean we shouldn't do a giant repack right after
>> clone I agree.
>
> And, I also mean that since 'git clone' knows that there can't
> possibly be any garbage in the first place, then it shouldn't call 'gc
> --auto' at all.  However, since it also knows that there is a lot of
> new stuff, then it should create a commit-graph if enabled.

Is this something you think just because the tool isn't called
git-gc-and-optimzie, or do you think this regardless of what it's
called?

I don't see how splitting up the entry points for "detect if we need to
cleanup or optimize the repo" leaves us with a better codebase for the
reasons noted in
https://public-inbox.org/git/87pnwrgll2.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com/

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-03 15:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-03 13:23 We should add a "git gc --auto" after "git clone" due to commit graph Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-03 13:36 ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-03 13:42   ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-03 14:18     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-03 14:01   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-03 14:17     ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-03 14:22       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-03 14:53         ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-03 15:19           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2018-10-03 16:59             ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-05  6:09               ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-10 22:07                 ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-10 23:01                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-03 19:08           ` Stefan Beller
2018-10-03 19:21             ` Jeff King
2018-10-03 20:35               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-03 17:47         ` Stefan Beller
2018-10-03 18:47           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-03 18:51             ` Jeff King
2018-10-03 18:59               ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-03 19:18                 ` Jeff King
2018-10-08 16:41                   ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-08 16:57                     ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-08 18:10                       ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-08 18:29                         ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-09  3:08                           ` Jeff King
2018-10-09 13:48                             ` Bloom Filters (was Re: We should add a "git gc --auto" after "git clone" due to commit graph) Derrick Stolee
2018-10-09 18:45                               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-09 18:46                               ` Jeff King
2018-10-09 19:03                                 ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-09 21:14                                   ` Jeff King
2018-10-09 23:12                                     ` Bloom Filters Jeff King
2018-10-09 23:13                                       ` [PoC -- do not apply 1/3] initial tree-bitmap proof of concept Jeff King
2018-10-09 23:14                                       ` [PoC -- do not apply 2/3] test-tree-bitmap: add "dump" mode Jeff King
2018-10-10  0:48                                         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-11  3:13                                           ` Jeff King
2018-10-09 23:14                                       ` [PoC -- do not apply 3/3] test-tree-bitmap: replace ewah with custom rle encoding Jeff King
2018-10-10  0:58                                         ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-11  3:20                                           ` Jeff King
2018-10-11 12:33                                       ` Bloom Filters Derrick Stolee
2018-10-11 13:43                                         ` Jeff King
2018-10-09 21:30                             ` We should add a "git gc --auto" after "git clone" due to commit graph SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-09 19:34                       ` [PATCH 0/4] Bloom filter experiment SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-09 19:34                         ` [PATCH 1/4] Add a (very) barebones Bloom filter implementation SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-09 19:34                         ` [PATCH 2/4] commit-graph: write a Bloom filter containing changed paths for each commit SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-09 21:06                           ` Jeff King
2018-10-09 21:37                             ` SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-09 19:34                         ` [PATCH 3/4] revision.c: use the Bloom filter to speed up path-limited revision walks SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-09 19:34                         ` [PATCH 4/4] revision.c: add GIT_TRACE_BLOOM_FILTER for a bit of statistics SZEDER Gábor
2018-10-09 19:47                         ` [PATCH 0/4] Bloom filter experiment Derrick Stolee
2018-10-11  1:21                         ` [PATCH 0/2] Per-commit filter proof of concept Jonathan Tan
2018-10-11  1:21                           ` [PATCH 1/2] One filter per commit Jonathan Tan
2018-10-11 12:49                             ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-11 19:11                               ` [PATCH] Per-commit and per-parent filters for 2 parents Jonathan Tan
2018-10-11  1:21                           ` [PATCH 2/2] Only make bloom filter for first parent Jonathan Tan
2018-10-11  7:37                           ` [PATCH 0/2] Per-commit filter proof of concept Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-15 14:39                         ` [PATCH 0/4] Bloom filter experiment Derrick Stolee
2018-10-16  4:45                           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-16 11:13                             ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-16 12:57                               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-16 13:03                                 ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-18  2:00                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-10-16 23:41                           ` Jonathan Tan
2018-10-08 23:02                     ` We should add a "git gc --auto" after "git clone" due to commit graph Junio C Hamano
2018-10-03 14:32     ` Duy Nguyen
2018-10-03 16:45 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-10-04 21:42 ` [RFC PATCH] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-05 12:05   ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-05 13:05     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-05 13:45       ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-05 14:04         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-05 19:21         ` Jeff King
2018-10-05 19:41           ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-05 19:47             ` Jeff King
2018-10-05 20:00               ` Derrick Stolee
2018-10-05 20:02                 ` Jeff King
2018-10-05 20:01               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-10-05 20:09                 ` Jeff King

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