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From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@nvidia.com>,
	Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>,
	Shameer Kolothum <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>,
	Yishai Hadas <yishaih@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2] vfio: Documentation for the migration region
Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2021 12:16:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o85su0kv.fsf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211206191933.GM4670@nvidia.com>

On Mon, Dec 06 2021, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 06, 2021 at 07:06:35PM +0100, Cornelia Huck wrote:
>
>> We're discussing a complex topic here, and we really don't want to
>> perpetuate an unclear uAPI. This is where my push for more precise
>> statements is coming from.
>
> I appreciate that, and I think we've made a big effort toward that
> direction.
>
> Can we have some crisp feedback which statements need SHOULD/MUST/MUST
> NOT and come to something?

I'm not sure what I should actually comment on, some general remarks:

- If we consider a possible vfio-ccw implementation that will quiesce
  the device and not rely on tracking I/O, we need to make the parts
  that talk about tracking non-mandatory.
- NDMA sounds like something that needs to be non-mandatory as well.
- The discussion regarding bit group changes has me confused. You seem
  to be saying that mlx5 needs that, so it needs to have some mandatory
  component; but are actually all devices able to deal with those bits
  changing as a group?
- In particular, the flow needs definitive markings about what is
  mandatory to implement, what is strongly suggested, and what is
  optional. It is unclear to me what is really expected, and what is
  simply one way to implement it.

>
> The world needs to move forward, we can't debate this endlessly
> forever. It is already another 6 weeks past since the last mlx5 driver
> posting.

6 weeks is already blazingly fast in any vfio migration discussion. /s

Remember that we have other things to do as well, not all of which will
be visible to you.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-07 11:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-29 14:45 [PATCH RFC v2] vfio: Documentation for the migration region Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-30 17:26 ` Alex Williamson
2021-11-30 18:59   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-30 22:35     ` Alex Williamson
2021-12-01  3:14       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01  9:54         ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2021-12-01 13:49           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 20:03         ` Alex Williamson
2021-12-01 23:25           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-02 17:05             ` Cornelia Huck
2021-12-02 17:41               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-02 17:46                 ` Cornelia Huck
2021-12-03 18:06             ` Alex Williamson
2021-12-06 16:03               ` Cornelia Huck
2021-12-06 17:34                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-06 18:06                   ` Cornelia Huck
2021-12-06 19:19                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-07 11:16                       ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2021-12-07 15:51                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-07 16:30                           ` Cornelia Huck
2021-12-07 17:00                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-08 16:06                           ` Alex Williamson
2021-12-08 20:27                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-06 19:15               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-07 10:50                 ` Cornelia Huck
2021-12-07 15:37                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-07 15:56                     ` Cornelia Huck
2021-12-07 16:13                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-07 16:22                     ` Alex Williamson

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