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From: Daniel Kahn Gillmor <dkg@fifthhorseman.net>
To: Reuben Martin <reuben.m.work@gmail.com>,
	WireGuard mailing list <wireguard@lists.zx2c4.com>
Subject: Re: wireguard dkms systemd
Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2018 10:24:56 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o9b5frsn.fsf@fifthhorseman.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALJ2VGaq8AasV99YApW5UWEKK0B-r+uafT7nEjbKARfwADab+A@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri 2018-11-02 18:27:55 -0500, Reuben Martin wrote:
> All this discussion about service management kinda misses the
> point. You're swapping out a kernel module. There will always be
> risk. Changing service management procedures won't mitigate that. If
> you do not have a means to connect outside of the VPN connection, and
> the module (or service) fail, you're SOL.

I think you're saying that such a migration is complicated,
idiosyncratic, and might fail -- so we should automate it and let the
admin pick up the pieces if it breaks.

I think i agree that it's complicated, idiosyncratic, and might fail --
by my conclusion is that we *shouldn't* automate it on behalf of the
local admin, but rather let them plan their own migration.  *shrug*

Again, if you have a suggestion for how to reduce the risk, i'm all
ears, but i'm not about to encourage automated breakage in the package
management.

        --dkg
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-04  3:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-20 20:59 wireguard dkms systemd Lucian Cristian
2018-10-20 21:07 ` Robert-André Mauchin
2018-10-21 12:12 ` Jordan Glover
2018-10-21 15:49   ` Lucian Cristian
2018-11-02 13:52     ` Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2018-11-02 23:27       ` Reuben Martin
2018-11-04  3:24         ` Daniel Kahn Gillmor [this message]
2018-11-04 15:35           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-11-05  6:28             ` Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2018-11-05 11:27               ` Fabian Grünbichler
2018-11-06  7:16                 ` Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2018-11-06 13:04                   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2018-11-07  2:29                     ` Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2018-11-05 15:51               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-11-03 11:54       ` Matthias Urlichs
2018-11-04  3:22         ` Daniel Kahn Gillmor
2018-10-21 13:01 ` Jonathon Fernyhough

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