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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>,
	Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>, Jon Mason <jdmason@kudzu.us>,
	Allen Hubbe <allenbh@gmail.com>,
	"Ahmed S. Darwish" <darwi@linutronix.de>,
	Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 13/33] x86/apic/vector: Provide MSI parent domain
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2022 21:06:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pmdll51a.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y3U3dQhVCYF0on6v@nvidia.com>

On Wed, Nov 16 2022 at 15:18, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 02:58:31PM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> +static bool x86_init_dev_msi_info(struct device *dev, struct irq_domain *domain,
>> +				  struct irq_domain *real_parent, struct msi_domain_info *info)
>> +{
>> +	const struct msi_parent_ops *pops = real_parent->msi_parent_ops;
>> +
>> +	/* MSI parent domain specific settings */
>> +	switch (real_parent->bus_token) {
>> +	case DOMAIN_BUS_ANY:
>> +		/* Only the vector domain can have the ANY token */
>> +		if (WARN_ON_ONCE(domain != real_parent))
>> +			return false;
>> +		info->chip->irq_set_affinity = msi_set_affinity;
>> +		/* See msi_set_affinity() for the gory details */
>> +		info->flags |= MSI_FLAG_NOMASK_QUIRK;
>> +		break;
>> +	default:
>> +		WARN_ON_ONCE(1);
>> +		return false;
>> +	}
>> +
>> +	/* Is the target supported? */
>> +	switch(info->bus_token) {
>> +	case DOMAIN_BUS_PCI_DEVICE_MSI:
>> +	case DOMAIN_BUS_PCI_DEVICE_MSIX:
>> +		break;
>> +	default:
>> +		WARN_ON_ONCE(1);
>> +		return false;
>
> Why does x86 care how the vector is ultimately programmed into the
> device?

That's not the point.

> The leaking of the MSI programming model into the irq implementations
> seems like there is still a troubled modularity.
>
> I understand that some implementations rely on a hypercall/trap or
> whatever and must know MSI vs MSI-X, but I'm surprised to see this
> here.

Why? It's the 'init a new per device domain' code which can rightfully
have a say whether it is willing to support something or not or to put
constraints on it. Those constraints can very much depend on the device
type or the MSI type. Creating random MSI domains seems to be pretty
envogue today and I really have no interest to deal with the fallout
once the fancy muck is merged in some random subsystem and the developer
moved on. I have no idea why everyone thinks that driver writers should
be granted the ultimate freedom to do what they want and anything which
puts an constraint on something is bad and troubled to begin with.

Since I started to strictly encapsulate and fence of things, the amount
of horrors I had to debug and then mop up has significantly decreased.
It also forces people who want to add some new fancy stuff to talk to
the infrastructure people so that the new functionality can be looked at
in the broader picture and solutions can be found upfront and not after
the fact when the resulting damage is discovered.

Quite some of the issues I discovered during last years discussions,
like the VFIO disable/enable trainwreck, the IRQ_VIRTUAL nonsense and
other random hacks could have neen avoided if people would actually talk
to each other and not just run off and hack something into place which
then gets somehow merged.

On the ARM side there is even a fundamental requirement for this today
due to the way how the existing infrastructure handles PCI/MSI[X] and
platform MSI, unless we go and rewrite half of the underlying code first
or in parallel.

It was also a migration aid to catch issues in the gradual conversion.

Again, we are not starting from a clean slate. I might be overly
cautious, but for very good reasons.

Thanks,

        tglx



  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-17 20:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-11 13:58 [patch 00/33] genirq, PCI/MSI: Support for per device MSI and PCI/IMS - Part 3 implementation Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-11 13:58 ` [patch 01/33] genirq/msi: Rearrange MSI domain flags Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-16 18:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-11 13:58 ` [patch 02/33] genirq/msi: Provide struct msi_parent_ops Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-16 18:57   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-17 15:58     ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-18 13:52       ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-11 13:58 ` [patch 03/33] genirq/msi: Provide data structs for per device domains Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-11 13:58 ` [patch 04/33] genirq/msi: Add size info to struct msi_domain_info Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-11 13:58 ` [patch 05/33] genirq/msi: Split msi_create_irq_domain() Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-11 13:58 ` [patch 06/33] genirq/irqdomain: Add irq_domain::dev for per device MSI domains Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-11 13:58 ` [patch 07/33] genirq/msi: Provide msi_create/free_device_irq_domain() Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-11 13:58 ` [patch 08/33] genirq/msi: Provide msi_match_device_domain() Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-11 13:58 ` [patch 09/33] genirq/msi: Add range checking to msi_insert_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-11 13:58 ` [patch 10/33] PCI/MSI: Split __pci_write_msi_msg() Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-16 20:10   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2022-11-11 13:58 ` [patch 11/33] genirq/msi: Provide BUS_DEVICE_PCI_MSI[X] Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-11 13:58 ` [patch 12/33] PCI/MSI: Add support for per device MSI[X] domains Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-16 19:13   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-16 22:38     ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-17  0:22       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-17  8:45         ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-16 20:22   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2022-11-11 13:58 ` [patch 13/33] x86/apic/vector: Provide MSI parent domain Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-16 19:18   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-17 20:06     ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2022-11-11 13:58 ` [patch 14/33] PCI/MSI: Remove unused pci_dev_has_special_msi_domain() Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-16 20:13   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2022-11-11 13:58 ` [patch 15/33] iommu/vt-d: Switch to MSI parent domains Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-11 13:58 ` [patch 16/33] iommu/amd: Switch to MSI base domains Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-11 13:58 ` [patch 17/33] x86/apic/msi: Remove arch_create_remap_msi_irq_domain() Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-11 13:58 ` [patch 18/33] genirq/msi: Provide struct msi_map Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-11 13:58 ` [patch 19/33] genirq/msi: Provide msi_desc::msi_data Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-16 19:28   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-17  8:48     ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-17 13:33       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-18 22:08     ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-21 17:20       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-21 19:40         ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-22  1:52           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-22 20:49             ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-23 16:58               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-23 18:38                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-12-01 12:24                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-12-02  0:35                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-12-02  2:14                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-11 13:58 ` [patch 20/33] genirq/msi: Provide msi_domain_ops::prepare_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-11 13:58 ` [patch 21/33] genirq/msi: Provide msi_domain_alloc_irq_at() Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-16 19:36   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-17  9:40     ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-17 23:33   ` Reinette Chatre
2022-11-18  0:58     ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-18  9:15       ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-18 11:05         ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-18 18:18           ` Reinette Chatre
2022-11-18 22:31             ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-18 22:59               ` Reinette Chatre
2022-11-19  0:19                 ` Reinette Chatre
2022-11-11 13:58 ` [patch 22/33] genirq/msi: Provide MSI_FLAG_MSIX_ALLOC_DYN Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-16 19:36   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-11 13:58 ` [patch 23/33] PCI/MSI: Split MSIX descriptor setup Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-16 20:13   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2022-11-11 13:58 ` [patch 24/33] PCI/MSI: Provide prepare_desc() MSI domain op Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-16 19:40   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-16 20:26   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2022-11-16 22:42     ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-11 13:58 ` [patch 25/33] PCI/MSI: Provide post-enable dynamic allocation interfaces for MSI-X Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-16 20:19   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2022-11-16 22:43     ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-11 13:58 ` [patch 26/33] x86/apic/msi: Enable MSI_FLAG_PCI_MSIX_ALLOC_DYN Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-11 13:58 ` [patch 27/33] genirq/msi: Provide constants for PCI/IMS support Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-16 19:54   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-17  9:46     ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-11 13:58 ` [patch 28/33] PCI/MSI: Provide IMS (Interrupt Message Store) support Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-16 20:17   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2022-11-11 13:58 ` [patch 29/33] PCI/MSI: Provide pci_ims_alloc/free_irq() Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-16 20:14   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2022-11-11 13:58 ` [patch 30/33] x86/apic/msi: Enable PCI/IMS Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-11 13:59 ` [patch 31/33] iommu/vt-d: " Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-11 13:59 ` [patch 32/33] iommu/amd: " Thomas Gleixner
2022-11-11 13:59 ` [patch 33/33] irqchip: Add IDXD Interrupt Message Store driver Thomas Gleixner
2022-12-02 17:55   ` Reinette Chatre
2022-12-02 19:51     ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-12-02 21:16       ` Reinette Chatre
2022-12-05 15:20       ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-12-05 17:19         ` Reinette Chatre

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