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From: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
To: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
Cc: "Petr Mladek" <pmladek@suse.com>,
	"Sergey Senozhatsky" <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Jiri Slaby" <jirislaby@kernel.org>,
	"Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>,
	"Andy Shevchenko" <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	"Justin Chen" <justin.chen@broadcom.com>,
	"Jiaqing Zhao" <jiaqing.zhao@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-serial@vger.kernel.org,
	"Peter Collingbourne" <pcc@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH printk v2 08/26] printk: nbcon: Implement processing in port->lock wrapper
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2024 10:38:15 +0106	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r0fwt3z4.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240322062305.GB5132@atomide.com>

On 2024-03-22, Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com> wrote:
> * John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de> [240313 09:50]:
>> One nice thing that has risen from this is we are starting to see
>> exactly what the console lock is needed for. At this point I would say
>> its main function is synchronizing boot consoles with real
>> drivers. Which means we will not be able to remove the console lock
>> until we find a real solution to match boot consoles (which circumvent
>> the Linux driver model) with the real drivers.
>
> Would it help if earlycon handles all the boot consoles?
> Then just have the serial driver take over when it probes?

I think this would be very helpful. And it would also cleanup the boot
arguments. For example, we would no longer need the
architecture-specific arguments/options (such as "early_printk" and
"keep"). These architecture-specific arguments can be really
confusing. There have been so many times I see a developer cursing that
they can't get early debugging working, when I notice they are trying to
use "early_printk" on an arm64 system.

Browsing through

arch/x86/kernel/early_printk.c
arch/x86/boot/early_serial_console.c

you can see lots of examples of various early consoles and their special
tricks/hacks (such as pretending not to be a boot console when it really
is).

And pretty much every architecture has these. (git grep CON_BOOT)

Ideally it would be great if a console could register and say "taking
over for console X". Maybe with a new field:

struct console {
  ...
  struct console *console_to_replace;
  ...
};

John Ogness

  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-27  9:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-18 18:57 [PATCH printk v2 00/26] wire up write_atomic() printing John Ogness
2024-02-18 18:57 ` [PATCH printk v2 01/26] serial: core: Provide port lock wrappers John Ogness
2024-02-18 18:57 ` [PATCH printk v2 02/26] serial: core: Use " John Ogness
2024-02-18 18:57 ` [PATCH printk v2 03/26] serial: core: fix kernel-doc for uart_port_unlock_irqrestore() John Ogness
2024-02-18 18:57 ` [PATCH printk v2 04/26] printk: Consider nbcon boot consoles on seq init John Ogness
2024-02-20 10:26   ` Petr Mladek
2024-02-18 18:57 ` [PATCH printk v2 05/26] printk: Add notation to console_srcu locking John Ogness
2024-02-20 10:29   ` Petr Mladek
2024-02-18 18:57 ` [PATCH printk v2 06/26] printk: nbcon: Ensure ownership release on failed emit John Ogness
2024-02-20 15:16   ` Petr Mladek
2024-02-20 16:29     ` John Ogness
2024-02-21 13:23       ` John Ogness
2024-02-18 18:57 ` [PATCH printk v2 07/26] printk: Check printk_deferred_enter()/_exit() usage John Ogness
2024-02-21  9:55   ` Petr Mladek
2024-02-18 18:57 ` [PATCH printk v2 08/26] printk: nbcon: Implement processing in port->lock wrapper John Ogness
2024-02-19 12:16   ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-02-19 14:18     ` John Ogness
2024-02-19 14:35       ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-02-19 16:52         ` John Ogness
2024-02-19 17:14           ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-02-23 10:51   ` Petr Mladek
2024-03-11 17:08     ` John Ogness
2024-03-13  9:49       ` John Ogness
2024-03-22  6:23         ` Tony Lindgren
2024-03-27  9:32           ` John Ogness [this message]
2024-03-27 13:12             ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-03-14 11:37       ` John Ogness
2024-03-14 14:26       ` Petr Mladek
2024-03-15 15:04         ` John Ogness
2024-03-18 15:42           ` Petr Mladek
2024-02-18 18:57 ` [PATCH printk v2 09/26] printk: nbcon: Add detailed doc for write_atomic() John Ogness
2024-02-23 13:11   ` Petr Mladek
2024-02-18 18:57 ` [PATCH printk v2 10/26] printk: nbcon: Fix kerneldoc for enums John Ogness
2024-02-18 19:10   ` Randy Dunlap
2024-02-23 13:13   ` Petr Mladek
2024-02-18 18:57 ` [PATCH printk v2 11/26] printk: Make console_is_usable() available to nbcon John Ogness
2024-02-18 18:57 ` [PATCH printk v2 12/26] printk: Let console_is_usable() handle nbcon John Ogness
2024-02-18 18:57 ` [PATCH printk v2 13/26] printk: Add @flags argument for console_is_usable() John Ogness
2024-02-18 18:57 ` [PATCH printk v2 14/26] printk: nbcon: Provide function to flush using write_atomic() John Ogness
2024-02-23 15:47   ` Petr Mladek
2024-02-18 18:57 ` [PATCH printk v2 15/26] printk: Track registered boot consoles John Ogness
2024-02-23 15:57   ` Petr Mladek
2024-02-18 18:57 ` [PATCH printk v2 16/26] printk: nbcon: Use nbcon consoles in console_flush_all() John Ogness
2024-02-23 17:15   ` Petr Mladek
2024-02-18 18:57 ` [PATCH printk v2 17/26] printk: nbcon: Assign priority based on CPU state John Ogness
2024-02-29 13:50   ` Petr Mladek
2024-02-18 18:57 ` [PATCH printk v2 18/26] printk: nbcon: Add unsafe flushing on panic John Ogness
2024-02-29 13:53   ` Petr Mladek
2024-02-18 18:57 ` [PATCH printk v2 19/26] printk: Avoid console_lock dance if no legacy or boot consoles John Ogness
2024-02-29 15:19   ` Petr Mladek
2024-02-29 16:19   ` READ_ONCE: was: " Petr Mladek
2024-02-29 22:51     ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-02-18 18:57 ` [PATCH printk v2 20/26] printk: Track nbcon consoles John Ogness
2024-03-01  9:39   ` Petr Mladek
2024-02-18 18:57 ` [PATCH printk v2 21/26] printk: Coordinate direct printing in panic John Ogness
2024-03-01 13:05   ` Petr Mladek
2024-02-18 18:57 ` [PATCH printk v2 22/26] printk: nbcon: Implement emergency sections John Ogness
2024-03-01 13:28   ` Petr Mladek
2024-03-01 15:49   ` flush was: " Petr Mladek
2024-03-01 16:12     ` Petr Mladek
2024-02-18 18:57 ` [PATCH printk v2 23/26] panic: Mark emergency section in warn John Ogness
2024-03-01 13:57   ` Petr Mladek
2024-02-18 18:57 ` [PATCH printk v2 24/26] panic: Mark emergency section in oops John Ogness
2024-03-01 14:55   ` Petr Mladek
2024-02-18 18:57 ` [PATCH printk v2 25/26] rcu: Mark emergency section in rcu stalls John Ogness
2024-03-01 15:13   ` Petr Mladek
2024-02-18 18:57 ` [PATCH printk v2 26/26] lockdep: Mark emergency section in lockdep splats John Ogness
2024-02-19  4:14   ` Waiman Long
2024-02-19 11:11     ` John Ogness
2024-02-19 15:07       ` Waiman Long
2024-03-01 15:18   ` Petr Mladek

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