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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	Carlo Arenas <carenas@gmail.com>,
	Eric Sunshine <sunshine@sunshineco.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/6] parse-options: stop supporting "" in the usagestr array
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2021 04:46:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r1dvaksr.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqlf44otbz.fsf@gitster.g>


On Fri, Sep 10 2021, Junio C Hamano wrote:

> Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason  <avarab@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> The strings in the the "usagestr" array have special handling for the
>> empty string dating back to f389c808b67 (Rework make_usage to print
>> the usage message immediately, 2007-10-14).
>>
>> We'll prefix all strings after the first one with "or: ". Then if we
>> encountered a "" we'll emit all strings after that point verbatim
>> without any "or: " prefixing.
>>
>> This gets rid of that special case, which was added in
>> f389c808b67 (Rework make_usage to print the usage message immediately,
>> 2007-10-14). It was only used "blame" (the "credential-cache*" use of
>
> used *by* "blame"
>
>> it was removed in the preceding commit). Before this change we'd emit:
>>
>>     $ git blame -h
>>     usage: git blame [<options>] [<rev-opts>] [<rev>] [--] <file>
>>
>>         <rev-opts> are documented in git-rev-list(1)
>
> The most crucial information is missing.  It may be shared with the
> previous step but it is even worse in this step.
>
> Why is this loss of feature a desirable thing in the first place?
>
> What are we gaining by breaking the "after listing the alternative
> forms concatenated with 'or:', we can give a general description,
> before going onto the list of options"?
>
> Without that explained, the remainder of the proposed log message
> reads more like an excuse for breaking the feature, justifying that
> the loss of feature can be worked around, than the description of a
> solution.

Making it the same as how "git bundle" describes it doesn't seem
anywhere close to breaking it, and that also goes to the point you had
about brevity on another patch.

I think that passing custom or generated help advice here might make
sense generally, i.e. we might eventually want to expand that to all
built-in as part of improving the -h and --help output, see e.g. the
note at the bottom of "git --help".

But if we do that let's do that with an API where we simply pass this
custom string in as another parameter to the function, rather than
having a state machine to parse it out of the array we use for the
"usage:" and "or:" list of lines.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-11  2:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-01 11:12 [PATCH 0/2] parse-options: properly align continued usage output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-01 11:12 ` [PATCH 1/2] built-ins: "properly" " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-01 11:12 ` [PATCH 2/2] parse-options: properly " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10  7:51   ` Eric Sunshine
2021-09-10 15:38 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] parse-options: properly align continued usage output & related Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 15:38   ` [PATCH v2 1/6] test-lib.sh: add a UNIX_SOCKETS prerequisite Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 15:38   ` [PATCH v2 2/6] git.c: add a NEED_UNIX_SOCKETS option for built-ins Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11  0:14     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-11  2:50       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11  3:47         ` Carlo Marcelo Arenas Belón
2021-09-11  6:12           ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-11  7:16           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 15:38   ` [PATCH v2 3/6] parse-options: stop supporting "" in the usagestr array Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11  0:21     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-11  2:46       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2021-09-11  6:52         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-10 15:38   ` [PATCH v2 4/6] built-ins: "properly" align continued usage output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11  0:25     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-11  2:40       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 15:38   ` [PATCH v2 5/6] send-pack: properly use parse_options() API for usage string Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-10 15:38   ` [PATCH v2 6/6] parse-options: properly align continued usage output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11  7:41   ` [PATCH v2 0/6] parse-options: properly align continued usage output & related Eric Sunshine
2021-09-11 19:08   ` [PATCH v3 " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11 19:09     ` [PATCH v3 1/6] credential-cache{,--daemon}: don't build under NO_UNIX_SOCKETS Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-12 21:48       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-11 19:09     ` [PATCH v3 2/6] blame: replace usage end blurb with better option spec Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-12  4:45       ` Eric Sunshine
2021-09-12 22:22       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-11 19:09     ` [PATCH v3 3/6] parse-options: stop supporting "" in the usagestr array Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-12 22:26       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-13  0:21         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11 19:09     ` [PATCH v3 4/6] built-ins: "properly" align continued usage output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11 19:09     ` [PATCH v3 5/6] send-pack: properly use parse_options() API for usage string Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-11 19:09     ` [PATCH v3 6/6] parse-options: properly align continued usage output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-13  0:13     ` [PATCH v4 0/4] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-13  0:13       ` [PATCH v4 1/4] parse-options API users: align usage output in C-strings Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-13  0:13       ` [PATCH v4 2/4] send-pack: properly use parse_options() API for usage string Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-13  0:13       ` [PATCH v4 3/4] git rev-parse --parseopt tests: add more usagestr tests Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-13  0:13       ` [PATCH v4 4/4] parse-options: properly align continued usage output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-13  6:41         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-09-21 13:30       ` [PATCH v5 0/4] " Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-21 13:30         ` [PATCH v5 1/4] parse-options API users: align usage output in C-strings Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-21 13:30         ` [PATCH v5 2/4] send-pack: properly use parse_options() API for usage string Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-21 13:30         ` [PATCH v5 3/4] git rev-parse --parseopt tests: add more usagestr tests Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-09-21 13:30         ` [PATCH v5 4/4] parse-options: properly align continued usage output Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason

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