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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: lvivier@redhat.com, thuth@redhat.com,
	Peter Krempa <pkrempa@redhat.com>,
	ehabkost@redhat.com, qemu-block@nongnu.org,
	libvir-list@redhat.com, jasowang@redhat.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, mreitz@redhat.com, kraxel@redhat.com,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	dgilbert@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/30] qapi/qom: QAPIfy --object and object-add
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 15:01:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r1kln60l.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210311114142.GE9008@merkur.fritz.box> (Kevin Wolf's message of "Thu, 11 Mar 2021 12:41:42 +0100")

Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com> writes:

> Am 11.03.2021 um 12:24 hat Peter Krempa geschrieben:
>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 09:37:11 +0100, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>> > Am 11.03.2021 um 08:47 hat Peter Krempa geschrieben:
>> > > On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 18:30:44 +0100, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>> > > > Am 10.03.2021 um 15:31 hat Paolo Bonzini geschrieben:
>> > > > > On 10/03/21 15:22, Peter Krempa wrote:
>> 
>> [...]
>> 
>> > > -object memory-backend-ram,id=ram-node2,size=24578621440,host-nodes=1-2,host-nodes=5,host-nodes=7,policy=bind
>> > 
>> > Oh, we have ranges, too... That makes the compatibility code even
>> > nastier to write. I doubt that we can implement this in the keyval
>> > parser alone without touching the visitor. :-/
>> > 
>> > > If any of the above is to be deprecated we'll need to adjust our
>> > > JSON->commandline generator accordignly.
>> > > 
>> > > Luckily the 'host-nodes' is storeable as a bitmap and the generator is
>> > > actually modular to allow plugging an array interpretor which actually
>> > > does the above conversion from a JSON array.
>> > > 
>> > > So, what is the preferred syntax here? Additionally we might need a
>> > > witness property to detect when to use the new syntax if basing it on
>> > > the object-add qapification will not be enough.
>> > 
>> > The list syntax supported by the keyval parser is the one you know from
>> > -blockdev: host-nodes.0=3,host-nodes.1=7, ...
>> 
>> I think that should be easy enough to convert to.
>
> We could also support JSON syntax in QEMU. That would probably be even
> more convenient for libvirt?

Cleanly QAPIfied options like -blockdev do

    if (optarg[0] == '{') {
        parse @optarg as JSON with qobject_from_json()
        convert to C type with qobject_input_visitor_new()
    } else {
        parse @optarg with keyval_parse()
        convert to C type with qobject_input_visitor_new_keyval()
    }

Options where compatibility problems defeat keyval_parse() can do

    if (optarg[0] == '{') {
        parse @optarg as JSON with qobject_from_json()
        convert to C type with qobject_input_visitor_new()
    } else {
        parse the old way
        convert to C type somehow
    }

Precedence: -display.  There, the old way is an ad hoc parser, and the
conversion to C type DisplayOptions is manual.  For -object, the old way
would be QemuOpts, and the conversion would use the opts visitor.

>> Is it safe to do right away (with the old parser?). Otherwise we need
>> to agree on something which will let us detect when it's safe to
>> change.
>
> Neither keyval nor JSON syntax work with the old QemuOpts parser.
>
> What is the usual way to do this for command line options? If we don't
> have a good way there, we can always tie it to something in the QAPI
> schema. If we still get this solved in time for 6.0, we could use the
> existence of ObjectOptions. Or all else failing, we can use a feature
> flag.

You should not look for types in output of query-qmp-schema, only for
commands and events.  To discourage looking for types, query-qmp-schema
masks the names of user-defined types.

A feature flag is fine as last resort.  That's what they were designed
for.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-03-11 14:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-08 16:54 [PATCH v3 00/30] qapi/qom: QAPIfy --object and object-add Kevin Wolf
2021-03-08 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 01/30] qapi/qom: Drop deprecated 'props' from object-add Kevin Wolf
2021-03-08 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 02/30] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for iothread Kevin Wolf
2021-03-08 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 03/30] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for authz-* Kevin Wolf
2021-03-09  9:17   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-03-08 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 04/30] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for cryptodev-* Kevin Wolf
2021-03-08 19:23   ` Eric Blake
2021-03-08 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 05/30] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for dbus-vmstate Kevin Wolf
2021-03-08 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 06/30] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for memory-backend-* Kevin Wolf
2021-03-08 19:25   ` Eric Blake
2021-03-08 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 07/30] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for rng-*, deprecate 'opened' Kevin Wolf
2021-03-08 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 08/30] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for throttle-group Kevin Wolf
2021-03-08 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 09/30] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for secret*, deprecate 'loaded' Kevin Wolf
2021-03-09  9:21   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-03-08 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 10/30] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for tls-*, " Kevin Wolf
2021-03-09  9:23   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-03-08 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 11/30] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for can-* Kevin Wolf
2021-03-08 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 12/30] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for colo-compare Kevin Wolf
2021-03-08 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 13/30] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for filter-* Kevin Wolf
2021-03-08 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 14/30] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for pr-manager-helper Kevin Wolf
2021-03-08 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 15/30] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for confidential-guest-support Kevin Wolf
2021-03-08 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 16/30] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for input-* Kevin Wolf
2021-03-08 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 17/30] qapi/qom: Add ObjectOptions for x-remote-object Kevin Wolf
2021-03-08 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 18/30] qapi/qom: QAPIfy object-add Kevin Wolf
2021-03-08 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 19/30] qom: Make "object" QemuOptsList optional Kevin Wolf
2021-03-08 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 20/30] qemu-storage-daemon: Implement --object with qmp_object_add() Kevin Wolf
2021-03-08 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 21/30] qom: Remove user_creatable_add_dict() Kevin Wolf
2021-03-08 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 22/30] qom: Factor out user_creatable_process_cmdline() Kevin Wolf
2021-03-13  8:41   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-03-13  9:28     ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-15 11:48     ` Kevin Wolf
2021-03-08 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 23/30] qemu-io: Use user_creatable_process_cmdline() for --object Kevin Wolf
2021-03-08 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 24/30] qemu-nbd: " Kevin Wolf
2021-03-08 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 25/30] qom: Add user_creatable_add_from_str() Kevin Wolf
2021-03-08 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 26/30] qemu-img: Use user_creatable_process_cmdline() for --object Kevin Wolf
2021-03-08 19:32   ` Eric Blake
2021-03-13  7:40   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-03-13  7:47     ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-13 12:30       ` Markus Armbruster
2021-03-15 11:38         ` Kevin Wolf
2021-03-15 14:15           ` Markus Armbruster
2021-03-15 14:43             ` Kevin Wolf
2021-03-08 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 27/30] hmp: QAPIfy object_add Kevin Wolf
2021-03-13 13:28   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-03-13 14:11     ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-15  9:39       ` Markus Armbruster
2021-03-15 11:09         ` Kevin Wolf
2021-03-15 11:38           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-03-15 11:58             ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-08 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 28/30] qom: Add user_creatable_parse_str() Kevin Wolf
2021-03-08 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 29/30] vl: QAPIfy -object Kevin Wolf
2021-03-08 19:34   ` Eric Blake
2021-03-08 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 30/30] qom: Drop QemuOpts based interfaces Kevin Wolf
2021-03-10 14:22 ` [PATCH v3 00/30] qapi/qom: QAPIfy --object and object-add Peter Krempa
2021-03-10 14:31   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-10 14:48     ` Peter Krempa
2021-03-10 17:30     ` Kevin Wolf
2021-03-11  7:47       ` Peter Krempa
2021-03-11  8:16         ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-11  8:37         ` Kevin Wolf
2021-03-11 11:24           ` Peter Krempa
2021-03-11 11:41             ` Kevin Wolf
2021-03-11 12:29               ` Peter Krempa
2021-03-11 14:01               ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2021-03-11  8:14       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-11  8:45         ` Kevin Wolf
2021-03-11  8:49           ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-11 10:38       ` Markus Armbruster
2021-03-11 11:00         ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-11 14:08           ` Markus Armbruster
2021-03-11 17:50             ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-12  8:14               ` Markus Armbruster
2021-03-12  8:46                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-03-12  8:52                   ` Peter Krempa
2021-03-13 13:40                 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-03-15 11:36                   ` Kevin Wolf
2021-03-15 15:26                     ` Markus Armbruster
2021-03-15 15:52                       ` Kevin Wolf

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