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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Leonardo Bras Soares Passos <leobras@redhat.com>
Cc: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Juan Quintela" <quintela@redhat.com>,
	"Jason Wang" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Xu" <peterx@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Eric Blake" <eblake@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] multifd: Implement zerocopy write in multifd migration (multifd-zerocopy)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2021 06:30:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sfwl3h5i.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ6HWG6a5zDR49LQa3iRKLPVWo7toEOgJugsx3oV1c++pT4rhw@mail.gmail.com> (Leonardo Bras Soares Passos's message of "Wed, 27 Oct 2021 22:56:51 -0300")

Leonardo Bras Soares Passos <leobras@redhat.com> writes:

[...]

>> The general argument for having QAPI schema 'if' mirror the C
>> implementation's #if is introspection.  Let me explain why that matters.
>>
>> Consider a management application that supports a range of QEMU
>> versions, say 5.0 to 6.2.  Say it wants to use an QMP command that is
>> new in QEMU 6.2.  The sane way to do that is to probe for the command
>> with query-qmp-schema.  Same for command arguments, and anything else
>> QMP.
>>
>> If you doubt "sane", check out Part II of "QEMU interface introspection:
>> From hacks to solutions"[*].
>>
>> The same technique works when a QMP command / argument / whatever is
>> compile-time conditional ('if' in the schema).  The code the management
>> application needs anyway to deal with older QEMU now also deals with
>> "compiled out".  Nice.
>>
>> Of course, a command or argument present in QEMU can still fail, and the
>> management application still needs to handle failure.  Distinguishing
>> different failure modes can be bothersome and/or fragile.
>>
>> By making the QAPI schema conditional mirror the C conditional, you
>> squash the failure mode "this version of QEMU supports it, but this
>> build of QEMU does not" into "this version of QEMU does not support
>> it".  Makes sense, doesn't it?
>>
>> A minor additional advantage is less generated code.
>>
>>
>>
>> [*] http://events17.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events/files/slides/armbru-qemu-introspection.pdf
>>
>
> This was very informative, thanks!
> I now understand the rationale about this choice.
>
> TBH I am not very used to this syntax.
> I did a take a peek at some other json files, and ended adding this
> lines in code, which compiled just fine:
>
> for : enum MigrationParameter
> {'name': 'multifd-zerocopy', 'if' : 'CONFIG_LINUX'},
>
> for : struct MigrateSetParameters and struct MigrationParameters:
> '*multifd-zerocopy': { 'type': 'bool', 'if': 'CONFIG_LINUX' },
>
> Is that enough? Is there any other necessary change?

Looks good to me.

The QAPI schema language is documented in docs/devel/qapi-code-gen.rst.

If you're curious, you can diff code generated into qapi/ before and
after adding the 'if'.

> Thanks for reviewing and for helping out with this!

My pleasure!



  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-28  4:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-09  7:56 [PATCH v4 0/3] MSG_ZEROCOPY for multifd Leonardo Bras
2021-10-09  7:56 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] QIOChannel: Add io_writev_zerocopy & io_flush_zerocopy callbacks Leonardo Bras
2021-10-11 19:17   ` Eric Blake
2021-10-11 19:38     ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-10-11 20:45       ` Eric Blake
2021-10-11 20:59         ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-10-13  6:07   ` Peter Xu
2021-10-13  6:32     ` Peter Xu
2021-10-27  6:07       ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-10-27  6:15         ` Peter Xu
2021-10-27  6:31           ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-10-09  7:56 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] QIOChannelSocket: Implement io_writev_zerocopy & io_flush_zerocopy for CONFIG_LINUX Leonardo Bras
2021-10-11 19:27   ` Eric Blake
2021-10-11 19:44     ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-10-13  6:18   ` Peter Xu
2021-10-27  6:30     ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-11-02 13:13   ` Juan Quintela
2021-11-03 20:50     ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-10-09  7:56 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] multifd: Implement zerocopy write in multifd migration (multifd-zerocopy) Leonardo Bras
2021-10-11 19:31   ` Eric Blake
2021-10-11 19:56     ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-10-12  5:53       ` Markus Armbruster
2021-10-28  1:56         ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-10-28  4:30           ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2021-10-28  4:37             ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-10-13  6:23   ` Peter Xu
2021-10-27  6:47     ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-10-27  7:06       ` Peter Xu
2021-10-13  6:26   ` Peter Xu
2021-10-27  6:50     ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-11-02 12:32   ` Juan Quintela
2021-11-03 21:29     ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2021-11-03 23:24       ` Juan Quintela
2021-11-04  3:43         ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos
2022-04-14  4:00     ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos

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