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From: Felipe Balbi <balbif@gmail.com>
To: Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.com>, Felipe Balbi <balbif@gmail.com>
Cc: Felipe Balbi <balbi@kernel.org>,
	Heikki Krogerus <heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com>,
	Mathias Nyman <mathias.nyman@linux.intel.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] usb: type-c: USB Type-C Connector System Software Interface
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 12:30:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87twl6qpim.fsf@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1455790706.1384.29.camel@suse.com>

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Hi,

Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.com> writes:
>> > What exactly are you sure about about?
>> 
>> heh, missed a NOT there :-)
>
> I am still confused :-)
> Do you think a sysfs interface is good, bad or good
> but insufficient?

I'm not sure it's the best interface. My fear is that as new
requirements/features come along, the amount of files will continue to
grow.

>> I guess what I'm trying to say is that CC microcontroller might not be
>> the one controlling the multiplexer which switches USB pins to another
>> function. IOW:
>> 
>> Change to alternate mode X message
>>  CC microcontroller interrupts CPU
>>   read status to get X
>>    change multiplexer
>> 
>
> Yes. But it seems to me that in this case we need a kernel driver
> without an API to user space. There are necessarily internal users

that assumes kernel always knows all possible alternate modes. What do
we about bogus requests (request alternate mode X when X is not
supported) ?

> of the PD controller. There are also external users. So the CC pins
> should be seen as a bus, which in essence they are (it reminds me
> of ancient ethernet actually), and if you really want full user
> space access, you'd need the quivalent of an sg driver.
>
> The issue is orthogonal to the question how we support UCSI, except
> that UCSI is a user of the CC pins and PD and frankly I don't see the
> firmware and a driver access this sanely simultaneously.  Therefore
> I'd prefer we make an API here which does not depend on UCSI, but can,
> if necessary, work on top of a driver doing full hardware access.

fair enough.

-- 
balbi

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-18 10:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-09 17:01 [PATCH 0/3] usb: USB Type-C Class and driver for UCSI Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-09 17:01 ` [PATCH 1/3] usb: USB Type-C Connector Class Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-09 18:20   ` Greg KH
2016-02-10 10:38     ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-10 17:26       ` Greg KH
2016-02-11 14:07         ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-10 10:49   ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-10 11:05     ` Andy Shevchenko
2016-02-10 11:11       ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-10 11:14         ` Andy Shevchenko
2016-02-10 11:23     ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-15 15:16       ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-11  8:55     ` Felipe Balbi
2016-02-11  9:08       ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-11 14:51         ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-11 14:36       ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-11 14:56         ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-17 14:07   ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-18  8:47     ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-18  9:21       ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-18 13:09         ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-18  9:35       ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-18 13:25         ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-18 13:44           ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-18 15:13             ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-26 13:09             ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-09 17:01 ` [PATCH 2/3] usb: type-c: USB Type-C Connector System Software Interface Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-09 18:21   ` Greg KH
2016-02-10 10:30     ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-10 17:20       ` Greg KH
2016-02-11 13:50         ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-15 15:30           ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-16  9:22             ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-16 13:39               ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-17  7:58                 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-17  9:03                   ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-17 10:29                     ` Felipe Balbi
2016-02-17 10:36                       ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-17 11:11                         ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-17 13:36                           ` Felipe Balbi
2016-02-17 14:28                             ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-18  9:07                               ` Peter Chen
2016-02-18 10:44                                 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-18 10:37                               ` Rajaram R
2016-02-18 10:47                                 ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-18 11:06                                   ` Rajaram R
2016-02-17 13:34                         ` Felipe Balbi
2016-02-17 13:51                           ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-18  7:08                             ` Felipe Balbi
2016-02-18 10:18                               ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-18 10:30                                 ` Felipe Balbi [this message]
2016-02-18 10:40                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-18  9:29       ` Peter Chen
2016-02-18  9:44         ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-10 11:19   ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-10 12:04     ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-10 11:56   ` Andy Shevchenko
2016-02-10 13:21     ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-10 14:02       ` Andy Shevchenko
2016-02-10 15:11         ` Bjørn Mork
2016-02-11  8:26           ` Andy Shevchenko
2016-02-11  8:59             ` Bjørn Mork
2016-02-10 14:15     ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-10 14:24       ` Andy Shevchenko
2016-02-10 15:08         ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]           ` <CAHp75VfmGsskf7Cmni3b4=tCbkPsR8d3jPYiv93Lm6DM9gq1-g@mail.gmail.com>
2016-02-11  8:13             ` Fwd: " Andy Shevchenko
2016-02-11 14:10               ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-10 13:04   ` Oliver Neukum
2016-02-11 14:08     ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-09 17:01 ` [PATCH 3/3] usb: type-c: UCSI ACPI driver Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-09 18:22   ` Greg KH
2016-02-10 10:23     ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-17 18:53 ` [PATCH 0/3] usb: USB Type-C Class and driver for UCSI Oliver Neukum
2016-02-18  9:21   ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-17 19:34 ` Rajaram R
2016-02-18 11:05   ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-02-18 11:15     ` Oliver Neukum
2016-05-05  3:05 ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-06  6:50   ` Felipe Balbi
2016-05-06  8:05     ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-06  8:29       ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-06 14:10         ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-06  8:23     ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-06  8:08   ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-06 14:08     ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-11  3:14     ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-11  9:40       ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-11 14:47         ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-13 14:23           ` Heikki Krogerus
2016-05-13 17:48             ` Guenter Roeck

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