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From: Nix <nix@esperi.org.uk>
To: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
Cc: "Ted Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Bryan Schumaker <bjschuma@netapp.com>,
	Peng Tao <bergwolf@gmail.com>,
	Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Apparent serious progressive ext4 data corruption bug in 3.6.3 (and other stable branches?)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 05:15:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87txtkld4h.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <508740B2.2030401@redhat.com> (Eric Sandeen's message of "Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:13:22 -0500")

On 24 Oct 2012, Eric Sandeen uttered the following:

> On 10/23/12 3:57 PM, Nix wrote:
>> The only unusual thing about the filesystems on this machine are that
>> they have hardware RAID-5 (using the Areca driver), so I'm mounting with
>> 'nobarrier': 
>
> I should have read more.  :(  More questions follow:
>
> * Does the Areca have a battery backed write cache?

Yes (though I'm not powering off, just rebooting). Battery at 100% and
happy, though the lack of power-off means it's not actually getting
used, since the cache is obviously mains-backed as well.

> * Are you crashing or rebooting cleanly?

Rebooting cleanly, everything umounted happily including /home and /var.

> * Do you see log recovery messages in the logs for this filesystem?

My memory says yes, but nothing seems to be logged when this happens
(though with my logs on the first filesystem damaged by this, this is
rather hard to tell, they're all quite full of NULs by now).

I'll double-reboot tomorrow via the faulty kernel and check, unless I
get asked not to in the interim. (And then double-reboot again to fsck
everything...)

>> the full set of options for all my ext4 filesystems are:
>> 
>> rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,journal_checksum,journal_async_commit,nobarrier,quota,
>> usrquota,grpquota,commit=30,stripe=16,data=ordered,usrquota,grpquota
>
> ok journal_async_commit is off the reservation a bit; that's really not
> tested, and Jan had serious reservations about its safety.

OK, well, I've been 'testing' it for years :) No problems until now. (If
anything, I was more concerned about journal_checksum. I thought that
had actually been implicated in corruption before now...)

> * Can you reproduce this w/o journal_async_commit?

I can try!

-- 
NULL && (void)

  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-24  4:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 112+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-22 16:17 Heads-up: 3.6.2 / 3.6.3 NFS server panic: 3.6.2+ regression? Nix
2012-10-23  1:33 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-10-23 14:07   ` Nix
2012-10-23 14:30     ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-10-23 16:32       ` Heads-up: 3.6.2 / 3.6.3 NFS server oops: 3.6.2+ regression? (also an unrelated ext4 data loss bug) Nix
2012-10-23 16:46         ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-10-23 16:54           ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-10-23 16:56           ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-10-23 16:56             ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-10-23 17:05             ` Nix
2012-10-23 17:36               ` Nix
2012-10-23 17:43                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-10-23 17:44                 ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-10-23 17:57                   ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-10-23 17:57                     ` Myklebust, Trond
     [not found]                   ` <1351015039.4622.23.camel@lade.trondhjem.org>
2012-10-23 18:23                     ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-10-23 18:23                       ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-10-23 19:49                       ` Nix
2012-10-24 10:18                         ` [PATCH] lockd: fix races in per-net NSM client handling Stanislav Kinsbursky
2012-10-23 20:57         ` Apparent serious progressive ext4 data corruption bug in 3.6.3 (and other stable branches?) Nix
2012-10-23 20:57           ` Nix
2012-10-23 22:19           ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-23 22:47             ` Nix
2012-10-23 23:16               ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-23 23:06             ` Nix
2012-10-23 23:28               ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-23 23:34                 ` Nix
2012-10-24  0:57             ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-24 20:17               ` Jan Kara
2012-10-26 15:25                 ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-24 19:13             ` Jannis Achstetter
2012-10-24 19:13               ` Jannis Achstetter
2012-10-24 21:31               ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-24 22:05                 ` Jannis Achstetter
2012-10-24 23:47                 ` Nix
2012-10-25 17:02                 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-10-24 21:04             ` Jannis Achstetter
2012-10-24  1:13           ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-24  1:13             ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-24  4:15             ` Nix [this message]
2012-10-24  4:27               ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-24  5:23                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-24  7:00                   ` Hugh Dickins
2012-10-24 11:46                     ` Nix
2012-10-24 11:45                   ` Nix
2012-10-24 17:22                   ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-24 19:49                   ` Nix
2012-10-24 19:54                     ` Nix
2012-10-24 20:30                     ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-24 20:34                       ` Nix
2012-10-24 20:45                     ` Nix
2012-10-24 21:08                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-24 23:27                       ` Apparent serious progressive ext4 data corruption bug in 3.6 (when rebooting during umount) Nix
2012-10-24 23:42                         ` Nix
2012-10-25  1:10                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-25  1:45                           ` Nix
2012-10-25  1:45                             ` Nix
2012-10-25 14:12                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-25 14:15                               ` Nix
2012-10-25 17:39                                 ` Nix
2012-10-25 11:06                           ` Nix
2012-10-26  0:22                           ` Apparent serious progressive ext4 data corruption bug in 3.6 (when rebooting during umount) (possibly blockdev / arcmsr at fault??) Nix
2012-10-26  0:11               ` Apparent serious progressive ext4 data corruption bug in 3.6.3 (and other stable branches?) Ric Wheeler
2012-10-26  0:43                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-26 12:12                   ` Nix
2012-10-26 20:35           ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-26 20:37             ` Nix
2012-10-26 20:56               ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-26 20:56                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-26 20:59                 ` Nix
2012-10-26 20:59                   ` Nix
2012-10-26 21:15                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-26 21:15                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-26 21:19                     ` Nix
2012-10-27  0:22                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-27  0:22                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-27 12:45                         ` Nix
2012-10-27 17:55                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-27 18:47                             ` Nix
2012-10-27 21:19                               ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-27 21:21                                 ` Nix
2012-10-27 21:23                                   ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-27 21:29                                     ` Nix
2012-10-27 21:34                                       ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-27 21:40                                         ` Nix
     [not found]                                         ` <09758CEA-74B5-48D0-8075-BB723A2CABBB@dilger.ca>
2012-10-29  2:09                                           ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-27 22:42                                 ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-29  1:00                                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-29  1:04                                     ` Nix
2012-10-29  2:24                                     ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-29  2:34                                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-29  2:35                                         ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-29  2:42                                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-27 18:30                           ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-27  3:11                     ` Jim Rees
2012-10-27  3:11                       ` Jim Rees
2012-10-27  8:01             ` Testing ext4's journal via simulating a reboot via KVM Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-28  4:23           ` [PATCH] ext4: fix unjournaled inode bitmap modification Eric Sandeen
2012-10-28  4:23             ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-28 13:59             ` Nix
2012-10-29  2:30             ` [PATCH -v3] " Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-29  2:30               ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-29  3:24               ` Eric Sandeen
2012-10-29  5:07               ` Andreas Dilger
2012-10-29 17:08               ` Darrick J. Wong
     [not found] <jXsTo-5lW-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <jXBDk-7vn-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <jXNl8-5m5-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <jXNOa-5MR-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <jXPGh-87s-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <jXTJW-4CH-55@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]           ` <jXUZj-6mo-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]             ` <jXVLH-7kO-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]               ` <jXW53-7CC-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                 ` <jXWeJ-7Lk-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2012-10-24 17:38                   ` Apparent serious progressive ext4 data corruption bug in 3.6.3 (and other stable branches?) Martin
2012-10-26 20:13                     ` Martin
2012-10-26 20:24                       ` Nix
2012-10-26 20:44                         ` Martin
2012-10-26 20:47                           ` Nix
2012-10-26 21:10                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2012-10-26 23:15                         ` Martin

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