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From: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: Damien Hedde <damien.hedde@greensocs.com>,
	lvivier@redhat.com, pkrempa@redhat.com, berrange@redhat.com,
	ehabkost@redhat.com, qemu-block@nongnu.org, mst@redhat.com,
	libvir-list@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, armbru@redhat.com,
	its@irrelevant.dk, pbonzini@redhat.com, jfreimann@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/11] qdev: Avoid QemuOpts in QMP device_add
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2021 10:21:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v92ak1hb.fsf@secure.mitica> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YVyMf7HCXGBXZQxI@redhat.com> (Kevin Wolf's message of "Tue, 5 Oct 2021 19:33:51 +0200")

Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com> wrote:
> Am 05.10.2021 um 17:52 hat Damien Hedde geschrieben:

Hi

>> > Usage
>> > -----
>> >
>> > The primary device can be hotplugged or be part of the startup
>> > configuration
>> >
>> >   -device virtio-net-pci,netdev=hostnet1,id=net1,
>> >           mac=52:54:00:6f:55:cc,bus=root2,failover=on
>> >
>> > With the parameter failover=on the VIRTIO_NET_F_STANDBY feature
>> > will be enabled.
>> >
>> > -device vfio-pci,host=5e:00.2,id=hostdev0,bus=root1,
>> >         failover_pair_id=net1
>> >
>> > failover_pair_id references the id of the virtio-net standby device.
>> > This is only for pairing the devices within QEMU. The guest kernel
>> > module net_failover will match devices with identical MAC addresses.
>> >
>> > Hotplug
>> > -------
>> >
>> > Both primary and standby device can be hotplugged via the QEMU
>> > monitor.  Note that if the virtio-net device is plugged first a
>> > warning will be issued that it couldn't find the primary device.
>> 
>> So maybe this whole primary device lookup can happen during the -device CLI
>> option creation loop. And we can indeed have un-created devices still in the
>> list ?
>
> Yes, that's the only case for which I could imagine for an inconsistency
> between the qdev tree and QemuOpts, but failover_add_primary() is only
> called after feature negotiation with the guest driver, so we can be
> sure that the -device loop has completed long ago.
>
> And even if it hadn't completed yet, the paragraph also says that even
> hotplugging the device later is supported, so creating devices in the
> wrong order should still succeed.
>
> I hope that some of the people I added to CC have some more hints.

Failover is ... interesting.

You have two devices: primary and seconday.
seconday is virtio-net, primary can be vfio and some other emulated
devices.

In the command line, devices can appear on any order, primary then
secondary, secondary then primary, or only one of them.
You can add (any of them) later in the toplevel.

And now, what all this mess is about.  We only enable the primary if the
guest knows about failover.  Otherwise we use only the virtio device
(*).  The important bit here is that we need to wait until the guest is
booted, and the virtio-net driver is loaded, and then it tells us if it
understands failover (or not).  At that point we decide if we want to
"really" create the primary.

I know that it abuses device_add() as much as it can be, but I can't see
any better way to handle it.  We need to be able to "create" a device
without showing it to the guest.  And later, when we create a different
device, and depending of driver support on the guest, we "finish" the
creation of the primary device.

Any good idea?

Later, Juan.

*: This changed recently and we can only have the "primary" and not the
 virtio one, but it doesn't matter on this discussion.



  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-06  8:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-24  9:04 [PATCH 00/11] qdev: Add JSON -device and fix QMP device_add Kevin Wolf
2021-09-24  9:04 ` [PATCH 01/11] qom: Reduce use of error_propagate() Kevin Wolf
2021-09-24 13:23   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-09-24 14:04   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-09-24 18:14   ` Eric Blake
2021-09-24  9:04 ` [PATCH 02/11] iotests/245: Fix type for iothread property Kevin Wolf
2021-09-24 13:33   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-09-24  9:04 ` [PATCH 03/11] iotests/051: Fix typo Kevin Wolf
2021-09-24 13:35   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-09-24  9:04 ` [PATCH 04/11] qdev: Avoid using string visitor for properties Kevin Wolf
2021-09-24 18:40   ` Eric Blake
2021-09-24  9:04 ` [PATCH 05/11] qdev: Make DeviceState.id independent of QemuOpts Kevin Wolf
2021-09-24 14:02   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-09-24 15:10     ` Kevin Wolf
2021-09-24 15:14       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-09-24  9:04 ` [PATCH 06/11] qdev: Add Error parameter to qdev_set_id() Kevin Wolf
2021-09-24 14:09   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-09-27 10:33     ` Damien Hedde
2021-10-05 11:09       ` Kevin Wolf
2021-09-24  9:04 ` [PATCH 07/11] qemu-option: Allow deleting opts during qemu_opts_foreach() Kevin Wolf
2021-09-24 14:14   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-09-24  9:04 ` [PATCH 08/11] qdev: Base object creation on QDict rather than QemuOpts Kevin Wolf
2021-09-24 18:53   ` Eric Blake
2021-09-24  9:04 ` [PATCH 09/11] qdev: Avoid QemuOpts in QMP device_add Kevin Wolf
2021-09-24 18:56   ` Eric Blake
2021-09-27 11:06   ` Damien Hedde
2021-09-27 11:39     ` Kevin Wolf
2021-10-05 14:37       ` Kevin Wolf
2021-10-05 15:52         ` Damien Hedde
2021-10-05 17:33           ` Kevin Wolf
2021-10-06  8:21             ` Juan Quintela [this message]
2021-10-06  9:20               ` Laurent Vivier
2021-10-06 10:53                 ` Kevin Wolf
2021-10-06 11:09                   ` Laurent Vivier
2021-10-01 14:42   ` Peter Krempa
2021-10-04 12:18     ` Damien Hedde
2021-10-04 14:22       ` Kevin Wolf
2021-09-24  9:04 ` [PATCH 10/11] vl: Enable JSON syntax for -device Kevin Wolf
2021-09-24 19:00   ` Eric Blake
2021-09-24  9:04 ` [PATCH 11/11] Deprecate stable non-JSON -device and -object Kevin Wolf
2021-09-24 19:02   ` Eric Blake
2021-09-27  8:15   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-09-27  8:21     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-27 10:17       ` Kevin Wolf
2021-09-27 10:37         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-09-27  9:00   ` Peter Maydell
2021-09-27 11:27     ` Kevin Wolf
2021-09-27 12:52       ` Peter Maydell
2021-09-27 16:10         ` Kevin Wolf

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