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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	"brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
	Philip Oakley <philipoakley@iee.email>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/6] config: allow specifying config entries via env
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2020 16:29:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y2i7vvz4.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1607514692.git.ps@pks.im>


On Wed, Dec 09 2020, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:

> this is the fourth version of my patch series which aims to implement a
> way to pass config entries via the environment while avoiding any
> requirements to perform shell quoting on the user's side.
>
> Given that the What's Cooking report notes that my third version is
> about to be dropped dropped because the `--config-env` way of doing
> things is preferred, I've now adopted that approach. I've taken the
> patch which Peff posted originally (with one change strchr->strrchr) and
> added documentation and tests to it.
>
> This patch series still includes my old proposal as it would actually be
> a better fit for our usecase at GitLab I have in mind, which is to put
> all configuration which applies to all git commands into the commands
> instead of using a config file for this. I have structured the series in
> such a way though that those patches come last -- so if you continue to
> think this approach shouldn't make it in, please feel free to drop
> patches 3-6.

To add even more to your headaches (sorry!) I hadn't really fully looked
at that --config-env proposal.

As noted in my per-patch reply in [1] it will still expose the key part
of the key=value, and in at least one place (url.<base>.insteadOf) the
key is where we'll pass the user/password on the command-line still with
that.

I'd much prefer either your 6/6 over --config-env for that reason & that
--config-env makes it impossible to pass a key with "=" in. For "-c" I
don't think that's much of an issue, but e.g. with
"url.<base>.insteadOf" needing to take arbitrary passwords + us
implicitly/explicitly advertising this as a "here's how you can pass the
password" feature not being able to have "=" is more painful.

I mildly prefer Jeff's suggestion of just getting GIT_CONFIG_PARAMETERS
to the point where we could document it [2][3] to both of those, but
that's mostly an asthetic concern of dealing with N values. It won't
matter for the security aspect (but I think you (but haven't tested)
that you still can't pass a "=", but your 6/6 does allow that).

I still can't quite shake the bad spidey-sense feeling that any of these
are bad in some way we haven't thought of, just from the perspective
that no other tool I can think of that accepts a password has this
mechanism for passing in a user/password or other sensitive data.

E.g. openssh explicitly has refused to add anything of the sort (a
--password parameter, but maybe they didn't consider
--password=ENV_VAR). E.g. curl has a mode where you can have a password
on the command-line, but they then make you use -netrc-file to grab it
from a file. From searching around I see concerns about shell histories
being part of the security model, maybe that's why it's not a common
pattern.

So I still wonder if some version of what I tried with /dev/fd/321 in
[4] would be best, i.e. something that combines transitory+no extra
command invocation+not adding things to shell history. We support that
pattern in general, just not in fetch.c/remote.c for no particular good
reason AFAICT.

I do that that whatever we go for this series would be much better if
the commit messages / added docs explained why we're doing particular
things, and to users why they'd use one method but not the other.

E.g. IIRC this whole series is because it's a hassle to invoke
core.askpass in some stateful program where you'd like to just provide a
transitory password. I think some brief cross-linking or explanation
somewhere of these various ways to pass sensitive values around would be
relly helpful.

1. https://lore.kernel.org/git/871rfzxctq.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com/
2. https://lore.kernel.org/git/20201117023454.GA34754@coredump.intra.peff.net/
3. https://lore.kernel.org/git/20201118015907.GD650959@coredump.intra.peff.net/
4. https://lore.kernel.org/git/87k0upflk4.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com/


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-12-09 15:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-24 10:50 [PATCH v2 0/2] config: allow specifying config entries via envvar pairs Patrick Steinhardt
2020-11-24 10:50 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] config: extract function to parse config pairs Patrick Steinhardt
2020-11-24 10:50 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] config: allow specifying config entries via envvar pairs Patrick Steinhardt
2020-11-25  3:39   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-25  7:06     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2020-11-25  7:41       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-25  7:57         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2020-11-25  8:47   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2020-11-25  9:00   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2020-11-25 19:50     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-25 10:41 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] " Jeff King
2020-11-25 13:16   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2020-11-26  0:36     ` Jeff King
2020-11-25 20:28   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-25 22:47   ` brian m. carlson
2020-11-26  6:31     ` Patrick Steinhardt
2020-12-01  9:47   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2020-12-01 11:30     ` Jeff King
2020-12-01  9:55 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] " Patrick Steinhardt
2020-12-01  9:55   ` [PATCH v3 1/4] environment: make `getenv_safe()` non-static Patrick Steinhardt
2020-12-01  9:56   ` [PATCH v3 2/4] config: extract function to parse config pairs Patrick Steinhardt
2020-12-01  9:56   ` [PATCH v3 3/4] config: refactor parsing of GIT_CONFIG_PARAMETERS Patrick Steinhardt
2020-12-01  9:56   ` [PATCH v3 4/4] config: allow specifying config entries via envvar pairs Patrick Steinhardt
2020-12-09 11:52 ` [PATCH v4 0/6] config: allow specifying config entries via env Patrick Steinhardt
2020-12-09 11:52   ` [PATCH v4 1/6] git: add `--super-prefix` to usage string Patrick Steinhardt
2020-12-09 11:52   ` [PATCH v4 2/6] config: add new way to pass config via `--config-env` Patrick Steinhardt
2020-12-09 14:40     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2020-12-09 16:24       ` Jeff King
2020-12-11 13:24         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2020-12-11 14:21           ` Jeff King
2020-12-11 14:54             ` Patrick Steinhardt
2020-12-11 16:10               ` Jeff King
2020-12-09 16:10     ` Jeff King
2020-12-09 16:12       ` [PATCH 1/3] quote: make sq_dequote_step() a public function Jeff King
2020-12-09 16:17       ` [PATCH 2/3] config: parse more robust format in GIT_CONFIG_PARAMETERS Jeff King
2020-12-09 16:20       ` [PATCH 3/3] config: store "git -c" variables using more robust format Jeff King
2020-12-09 16:34         ` Jeff King
2020-12-10 20:55         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2020-12-10 21:49           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-11 13:21           ` Jeff King
2020-12-10  0:00       ` [PATCH v4 2/6] config: add new way to pass config via `--config-env` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-10  0:09         ` Jeff King
2020-12-10  0:57           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-11 13:24       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2020-12-11 14:20         ` Jeff King
2020-12-09 11:52   ` [PATCH v4 3/6] environment: make `getenv_safe()` non-static Patrick Steinhardt
2020-12-09 11:52   ` [PATCH v4 4/6] config: extract function to parse config pairs Patrick Steinhardt
2020-12-09 13:12     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2020-12-09 11:52   ` [PATCH v4 5/6] config: refactor parsing of GIT_CONFIG_PARAMETERS Patrick Steinhardt
2020-12-09 11:52   ` [PATCH v4 6/6] config: allow specifying config entries via envvar pairs Patrick Steinhardt
2020-12-09 15:29   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2020-12-11 13:35     ` [PATCH v4 0/6] config: allow specifying config entries via env Patrick Steinhardt
2020-12-11 14:27       ` Jeff King
2020-12-11 14:42         ` Jeff King
2020-12-11 14:58           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2020-12-11 14:47         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2020-12-11 15:21           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2020-12-11 16:02           ` Jeff King
2020-12-16  7:52 ` [PATCH v5 0/8] " Patrick Steinhardt
2020-12-16  7:52   ` [PATCH v5 1/8] git: add `--super-prefix` to usage string Patrick Steinhardt
2020-12-16  7:52   ` [PATCH v5 2/8] config: add new way to pass config via `--config-env` Patrick Steinhardt
2020-12-23 21:35     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-16  7:54   ` [PATCH v5 4/8] config: extract function to parse config pairs Patrick Steinhardt
2020-12-16  7:54   ` [PATCH v5 7/8] environment: make `getenv_safe()` a public function Patrick Steinhardt
2020-12-16  7:54   ` [PATCH v5 8/8] config: allow specifying config entries via envvar pairs Patrick Steinhardt
2020-12-23 21:14     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-23 21:55       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-06 10:28         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2021-01-06 21:07           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-16  7:56   ` [PATCH v5 3/8] quote: make sq_dequote_step() a public function Patrick Steinhardt
2020-12-16  7:56   ` [PATCH v5 5/8] config: store "git -c" variables using more robust format Patrick Steinhardt
2020-12-16  7:57   ` [PATCH v5 6/8] config: parse more robust format in GIT_CONFIG_PARAMETERS Patrick Steinhardt
2020-12-16 20:01     ` Phillip Wood
2021-01-07  6:36 ` [PATCH v6 0/8] config: allow specifying config entries via env Patrick Steinhardt
2021-01-07  6:36   ` [PATCH v6 1/8] git: add `--super-prefix` to usage string Patrick Steinhardt
2021-01-07  6:36   ` [PATCH v6 2/8] config: add new way to pass config via `--config-env` Patrick Steinhardt
2021-01-10 20:29     ` Simon Ruderich
2021-01-11  0:29       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-11  8:24         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2021-01-07  6:36   ` [PATCH v6 3/8] quote: make sq_dequote_step() a public function Patrick Steinhardt
2021-01-07  6:37   ` [PATCH v6 4/8] config: extract function to parse config pairs Patrick Steinhardt
2021-01-07  6:37   ` [PATCH v6 5/8] config: store "git -c" variables using more robust format Patrick Steinhardt
2021-01-07  6:37   ` [PATCH v6 6/8] config: parse more robust format in GIT_CONFIG_PARAMETERS Patrick Steinhardt
2021-01-07  6:37   ` [PATCH v6 7/8] environment: make `getenv_safe()` a public function Patrick Steinhardt
2021-01-07  6:37   ` [PATCH v6 8/8] config: allow specifying config entries via envvar pairs Patrick Steinhardt
2021-01-11  8:36 ` [PATCH v7 0/8] " Patrick Steinhardt
2021-01-11  8:36   ` [PATCH v7 1/8] git: add `--super-prefix` to usage string Patrick Steinhardt
2021-01-11  8:36   ` [PATCH v7 2/8] config: add new way to pass config via `--config-env` Patrick Steinhardt
2021-01-11 22:34     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-11  8:36   ` [PATCH v7 3/8] quote: make sq_dequote_step() a public function Patrick Steinhardt
2021-01-11  8:36   ` [PATCH v7 4/8] config: extract function to parse config pairs Patrick Steinhardt
2021-01-11  8:37   ` [PATCH v7 5/8] config: store "git -c" variables using more robust format Patrick Steinhardt
2021-01-11  8:37   ` [PATCH v7 6/8] config: parse more robust format in GIT_CONFIG_PARAMETERS Patrick Steinhardt
2021-01-11  8:37   ` [PATCH v7 7/8] environment: make `getenv_safe()` a public function Patrick Steinhardt
2021-01-11  8:37   ` [PATCH v7 8/8] config: allow specifying config entries via envvar pairs Patrick Steinhardt
2021-01-12 12:26 ` [PATCH v8 0/8] " Patrick Steinhardt
2021-01-12 12:26   ` [PATCH v8 1/8] git: add `--super-prefix` to usage string Patrick Steinhardt
2021-01-12 12:26   ` [PATCH v8 2/8] config: add new way to pass config via `--config-env` Patrick Steinhardt
2021-04-16 15:40     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-17  8:38       ` Jeff King
2021-04-19 15:28         ` Patrick Steinhardt
2021-04-20 11:01           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-20 10:59         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-23 10:05           ` Jeff King
2021-05-19 11:36             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-01-12 12:26   ` [PATCH v8 3/8] quote: make sq_dequote_step() a public function Patrick Steinhardt
2021-01-12 12:26   ` [PATCH v8 4/8] config: extract function to parse config pairs Patrick Steinhardt
2021-01-12 12:27   ` [PATCH v8 5/8] config: store "git -c" variables using more robust format Patrick Steinhardt
2021-01-15 19:16     ` Jeff King
2021-01-20  6:29       ` Patrick Steinhardt
2021-01-20  6:55         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-20  7:42           ` Patrick Steinhardt
2021-01-20 22:28             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-12 12:27   ` [PATCH v8 6/8] config: parse more robust format in GIT_CONFIG_PARAMETERS Patrick Steinhardt
2021-01-12 12:27   ` [PATCH v8 7/8] environment: make `getenv_safe()` a public function Patrick Steinhardt
2021-01-12 12:27   ` [PATCH v8 8/8] config: allow specifying config entries via envvar pairs Patrick Steinhardt

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