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From: Dmitry Monakhov <dmonakhov@openvz.org>
To: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/12] ext4: Disable merging of uninitialized extents
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:41:13 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y5fce8rq.fsf@openvz.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130128153836.GH22711@thunk.org>

On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:38:36 -0500, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 07:02:55PM +0400, Dmitry Monakhov wrote:
> > Actually this patch consists of two peaces
> > 1) disable merging of uninitialized extents. (1 line change) I'm
> > absolutely agree with it.
> 
> To be clear, that's this patch chunk (one line change not including
> comments :-), right?
Off course.
> 
> --- a/fs/ext4/extents.c
> +++ b/fs/ext4/extents.c
> @@ -1579,11 +1576,13 @@ int
>  ext4_can_extents_be_merged(struct inode *inode, struct ext4_extent *ex1,
>  				struct ext4_extent *ex2)
>  {
>  
>  	/*
> -	 * Make sure that either both extents are uninitialized, or
> -	 * both are _not_.
> +	 * Make sure that both extents are initialized. We don't merge
> +	 * uninitialized extents so that we can be sure that end_io code has
> +	 * the extent that was written properly split out and conversion to
> +	 * initialized is trivial.
>  	 */
> -	if (ext4_ext_is_uninitialized(ex1) ^ ext4_ext_is_uninitialized(ex2))
> +	if (ext4_ext_is_uninitialized(ex1) || ext4_ext_is_uninitialized(ex2))
>  		return 0;
>  
> 
> The one thing I'm a bit worried about is how much worse will extent
> fragmentation be once we do this, but it's clear we need to strive for
> correctness first.
This change should not affect fragmentation because
1) Most people call fallocate(2) on big chunks (>4M)
2) Once uninitialized extent filled with data and converted to
initialized extents  will be merged immediately.
3) Most people use fallocate(2) for preallocation before write(2)
   so effectively calls are interleaved so merging works as expected.

The only case where fragmentation will increase is when someone
performs many fallocate(2) calls for small chunks (4k) w/o writes.
As result leaf block will consist of 256 extents 4k each.
Later writes can't help us because we can not merge extents from two
leaf blocks. But I still think that this use case it inconvenient.

BTW why do we not try to merge extents from two leaf blocs?
I do not see any technical difficulties. If two adjacent leaf blocks
are covered by common index block merging is possible (but we need +1
journal block).  
> 
> 							- Ted
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-29  7:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-18 12:00 [PATCH 0/12 v2] ext4: Several simplifications and fixes Jan Kara
2013-01-18 12:00 ` [PATCH 01/12] ext4: Always use ext4_bio_write_page() for writeout Jan Kara
2013-01-28 14:31   ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-01-18 12:00 ` [PATCH 02/12] ext4: Use redirty_page_for_writepage() in ext4_bio_write_page() Jan Kara
2013-01-28 14:34   ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-01-18 12:00 ` [PATCH 03/12] ext4: Remove bogus wait for unwritten extents in ext4_ind_direct_IO Jan Kara
2013-01-22 11:11   ` Dmitry Monakhov
2013-01-22 13:44     ` Jan Kara
2013-01-22 14:12       ` Dmitry Monakhov
2013-01-22 15:21         ` Jan Kara
2013-01-22 14:22       ` Zheng Liu
2013-01-22 15:22         ` Jan Kara
2013-01-22 16:00           ` Zheng Liu
2013-01-22 23:14             ` Jan Kara
2013-01-23  6:11               ` Zheng Liu
2013-01-23  9:42                 ` Jan Kara
2013-01-18 12:00 ` [PATCH 04/12] ext4: Disable merging of uninitialized extents Jan Kara
2013-01-24  9:49   ` Dmitry Monakhov
2013-01-24 15:12     ` Jan Kara
2013-01-24 15:32       ` Dmitry Monakhov
2013-01-28 14:36     ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-01-28 15:02       ` Dmitry Monakhov
2013-01-28 15:38         ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-01-29  7:41           ` Dmitry Monakhov [this message]
2013-01-29  8:37             ` Zheng Liu
2013-01-31  7:47     ` Dmitry Monakhov
2013-01-31 12:39       ` Jan Kara
2013-01-31 14:09         ` Dmitry Monakhov
2013-01-31 16:54       ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-09 17:10   ` REGRESSION: " Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-12 21:58     ` Jan Kara
2013-02-13  4:57       ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-13  7:26         ` Dmitry Monakhov
2013-02-13 15:08           ` Merge window planning for ext4 and Ted's vacation Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-14 10:47           ` REGRESSION: [PATCH 04/12] ext4: Disable merging of uninitialized extents Jan Kara
2013-02-14 16:11     ` Jan Kara
2013-02-14 19:05       ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-14 21:32         ` Jan Kara
2013-01-18 12:00 ` [PATCH 05/12] ext4: Remove unnecessary wait for extent conversion in ext4_fallocate() Jan Kara
2013-01-18 12:00 ` [PATCH 06/12] ext4: Move work from io_end to inode Jan Kara
2013-01-28 14:45   ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-01-18 12:00 ` [PATCH 07/12] ext4: Simplify list handling in ext4_do_flush_completed_IO() Jan Kara
2013-01-28 14:51   ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-01-18 12:00 ` [PATCH 08/12] ext4: Remove __ext4_journalled_writepage() from mpage_da_submit_io() Jan Kara
2013-01-28 14:40   ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-01-18 12:00 ` [PATCH 09/12] ext4: Dirty page has always buffers attached Jan Kara
2013-01-28 17:55   ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-01-18 12:00 ` [PATCH 10/12] ext4: Simplify mpage_add_bh_to_extent() Jan Kara
2013-01-28 18:06   ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-01-18 12:00 ` [PATCH 11/12] ext4: Make ext4_bio_writepage() handle unprepared buffers Jan Kara
2013-01-29  1:59   ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-01-18 12:00 ` [PATCH 12/12] ext4: Fix ext4_writepage() to achieve data=ordered guarantees Jan Kara
2013-01-29  2:08   ` Theodore Ts'o

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