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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Joel Stanley <joel@jms.id.au>
Cc: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	berrange@redhat.com, "Eduardo Habkost" <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	"Andrew Jeffery" <andrew@aj.id.au>,
	"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	qemu-arm <qemu-arm@nongnu.org>, "Cédric Le Goater" <clg@kaod.org>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/24] aspeed: Don't create unwanted "ftgmac100", "aspeed-mmi" devices
Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 07:35:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zha45vwx.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACPK8XcxVrA3E-c=jkszXd2Z6PMLO=tWDF60DTu-E3cyUdXD2A@mail.gmail.com> (Joel Stanley's message of "Tue, 19 May 2020 00:38:51 +0000")

Joel Stanley <joel@jms.id.au> writes:

> On Mon, 18 May 2020 at 12:19, Cédric Le Goater <clg@kaod.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 5/18/20 7:03 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> > These devices are optional, and controlled by @nb_nics.
>> > aspeed_soc_ast2600_init() and aspeed_soc_init() create the maximum
>> > supported number.  aspeed_soc_ast2600_realize() and
>> > aspeed_soc_realize() realize only the wanted number.  Works, although
>> > it can leave unrealized devices hanging around in the QOM composition
>> > tree.  Affects machines ast2500-evb, ast2600-evb, palmetto-bmc,
>> > romulus-bmc, swift-bmc, tacoma-bmc, and witherspoon-bmc.
>> >
>> > Make the init functions create only the wanted ones.  Visible in "info
>> > qom-tree"; here's the change for ast2600-evb:
>> >
>> >      /machine (ast2600-evb-machine)
>> >        [...]
>> >        /soc (ast2600-a1)
>> >          [...]
>> >          /ftgmac100[0] (ftgmac100)
>> >            /ftgmac100[0] (qemu:memory-region)
>> >     -    /ftgmac100[1] (ftgmac100)
>> >     -    /ftgmac100[2] (ftgmac100)
>> >     -    /ftgmac100[3] (ftgmac100)
>> >          /gpio (aspeed.gpio-ast2600)
>> >          [...]
>> >          /mii[0] (aspeed-mmi)
>> >            /aspeed-mmi[0] (qemu:memory-region)
>> >     -    /mii[1] (aspeed-mmi)
>> >     -    /mii[2] (aspeed-mmi)
>> >     -    /mii[3] (aspeed-mmi)
>> >          /rtc (aspeed.rtc)
>> >
>> > I'm not sure creating @nb_nics devices makes sense.  How many does the
>> > physical chip provide?
>>
>> The AST2400, AST2500 SoC have 2 macs and the AST2600 has 4. Each machine
>> define the one it uses, generally MAC0 but the tacoma board uses MAC3.
>>
>> Shouldn't the model reflect the real address space independently from
>> the NIC backends defined on the command line ?
>
> Agreed, the MAC hardware is present in all instances of the AST2600,
> so they should be present in qemu. Only some boards wire up a network
> device to the other side.

I guess an unwired NIC behaves as if no cable was plugged into the
external connector ("no carrier").

We can model that.

> It would be advantageous for us to be able to specify which device is
> being connected to on the command line. Currently we do this by
> connecting all devices up to the one we care about which is an ugly
> workaround.

We use -nic to configure onboard NICs.

The configuration gets deposited in nd_table[] for board code to pick
up.

Boards use nd_table[0] for their first NIC, nd_table[1] for the second,
and so forth.  How they order their NICs is part of their stable user
interface.

To leave a NIC unplugged, use -nice none.  Example: -nic none -nic user
leaves the first NIC unplugged, and plugs the second one using a user
network backend.

Say the board contains a SoC that provides four NICs, but the board
wires up only the last one.  Then board code should use nd_table[0] for
that last one.

I don't remember whether network device frontends can work without a
backend, or need a null backend.  If the latter, then board code needs
to supply such null backends.

>> How should we proceed in such cases ?

Model the physical hardware as faithfully as we can.

Follow-up patches welcome!



  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-19  5:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-18  5:03 [PATCH 00/24] Fixes around device realization Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18  5:03 ` [PATCH 01/24] arm/stm32f405: Fix realization of "stm32f2xx-adc" devices Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18 16:48   ` Alistair Francis
2020-05-19  5:08     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-05-19 22:20       ` Alistair Francis
2020-05-27  9:27         ` Markus Armbruster
2020-05-27 11:24           ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-18  5:03 ` [PATCH 02/24] display/xlnx_dp: Fix to realize "i2c-ddc" and "aux-to-i2c-bridge" Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18  8:19   ` Fred Konrad
2020-05-19  5:09     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-05-19  9:48       ` Peter Maydell
2020-05-19 12:07         ` Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18  9:59   ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2020-05-18 10:30   ` Peter Maydell
2020-05-18 11:13     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-19  5:13       ` Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18 16:56   ` Alistair Francis
2020-05-18  5:03 ` [PATCH 03/24] sd/pxa2xx_mmci: Fix to realize "pxa2xx-mmci" device Markus Armbruster
2020-05-21 16:20   ` Peter Maydell
2020-05-18  5:03 ` [PATCH 04/24] aspeed: Don't create unwanted "ftgmac100", "aspeed-mmi" devices Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18 12:19   ` Cédric Le Goater
2020-05-19  0:20     ` Andrew Jeffery
2020-05-19  5:45       ` Markus Armbruster
2020-05-19 11:42         ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-19 12:44           ` Cédric Le Goater
2020-05-19  0:38     ` Joel Stanley
2020-05-19  5:35       ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2020-05-18  5:03 ` [PATCH 05/24] aspeed: Don't create unwanted "cortex-a7-arm-cpu" devices Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18 12:24   ` Cédric Le Goater
2020-05-19  0:40     ` Joel Stanley
2020-05-19  5:46       ` Markus Armbruster
2020-05-19  9:35         ` Cédric Le Goater
2020-05-18  5:03 ` [PATCH 06/24] armv7m: Bury unwanted "ARM,bitband-memory" devices Markus Armbruster
2020-05-21 16:17   ` Peter Maydell
2020-05-25  5:50     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-05-25 12:32       ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-05-25 12:49         ` Peter Maydell
2020-05-26  5:19           ` Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18  5:03 ` [PATCH 07/24] auxbus: Fix aux-to-i2c-bridge to be a subtype of aux-slave Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18  8:53   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-18  5:03 ` [PATCH 08/24] mac_via: Fix to realize "mos6522-q800-via*" devices Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18 20:25   ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2020-05-18  5:03 ` [PATCH 09/24] macio: Fix to realize "mos6522-cuda" and "mos6522-pmu" devices Markus Armbruster
2020-05-21 16:26   ` Peter Maydell
2020-05-25  6:25     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-05-27 14:12     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-05-27 15:05       ` Peter Maydell
2020-05-27 15:12         ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-05-28  6:57           ` Markus Armbruster
2020-05-27 16:08         ` Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18  5:03 ` [PATCH 10/24] macio: Bury unwanted "macio-gpio" devices Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18 20:35   ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2020-05-19  6:06     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18  5:03 ` [PATCH 11/24] pnv/phb4: Bury unwanted "pnv-phb4-pec-stack" devices Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18  8:49   ` Greg Kurz
2020-05-18 13:24   ` Cédric Le Goater
2020-05-19  8:16   ` Cédric Le Goater
2020-05-19 11:50     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18  5:03 ` [PATCH 12/24] MAINTAINERS: Make section PowerNV cover pci-host/pnv* as well Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18  6:41   ` David Gibson
2020-05-18  5:03 ` [PATCH 13/24] ppc4xx: Drop redundant device realization Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18  8:54   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-18 10:27   ` BALATON Zoltan
2020-05-19  6:07     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18 16:41   ` Thomas Huth
2020-05-18  5:03 ` [PATCH 14/24] macio: Put "macio-nvram" device on the macio bus Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18 20:37   ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2020-05-18  5:03 ` [PATCH 15/24] macio: Fix macio-bus to be a subtype of System bus Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18  8:55   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-18 20:39   ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2020-05-19  6:09     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18  5:04 ` [PATCH 16/24] ppc/pnv: Put "*-pnv-chip" and "pnv-xive" on the main system bus Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18 16:34   ` Cédric Le Goater
2020-05-19  6:28     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-05-19 13:05   ` Cédric Le Goater
2020-05-18  5:04 ` [PATCH 17/24] pnv/psi: Correct the pnv-psi* devices not to be sysbus devices Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18 16:27   ` Cédric Le Goater
2020-05-19  6:30     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-05-19 13:04   ` Cédric Le Goater
2020-05-18  5:04 ` [PATCH 18/24] display/sm501 display/ati: Fix to realize "i2c-ddc" Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18 10:32   ` BALATON Zoltan
2020-05-19  6:30     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18 10:39   ` BALATON Zoltan
2020-05-18 10:45     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-19  6:35       ` Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18  5:04 ` [PATCH 19/24] riscv: Fix to put "riscv.hart_array" devices on sysbus Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18  5:04   ` Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18 17:03   ` Alistair Francis
2020-05-18 17:03     ` Alistair Francis
2020-05-18  5:04 ` [PATCH 20/24] riscv: Fix type of SiFive[EU]SocState, member parent_obj Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18  5:04   ` Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18  8:58   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-18  8:58     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-18 16:57   ` Alistair Francis
2020-05-18 16:57     ` Alistair Francis
2020-05-18  5:04 ` [PATCH 21/24] sparc/leon3: Fix to put grlib,* devices on sysbus Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18  8:09   ` Fred Konrad
2020-05-18  8:59   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-18  5:04 ` [PATCH 22/24] qdev: Assert devices are plugged into a bus that can take them Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18 15:03   ` Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18 20:42   ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2020-05-18  5:04 ` [PATCH 23/24] sd: Hide the qdev-but-not-quite thing created by sd_init() Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18  5:04 ` [PATCH 24/24] qdev: Assert onboard devices all get realized properly Markus Armbruster
2020-05-18  9:10   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé

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