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References: <20200123190145.GI657556@redhat.com> <2561a069-ce5f-3c30-b04e-db7cd2fcdc85@redhat.com> <20200124095027.GA824327@redhat.com> <20200127143505.GD5669@linux.fritz.box> <20200127202925.GE3419@work-vm> <20200128105932.GC6431@linux.fritz.box> <20200205130946.GC5768@dhcp-200-226.str.redhat.com> <20200205194944.GP3210@work-vm> <877e10xdd6.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> <20200206142143.GA4926@linux.fritz.box> Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2020 08:25:54 +0100 In-Reply-To: (John Snow's message of "Fri, 7 Feb 2020 16:23:58 -0500") Message-ID: <87zhdtlev1.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.11 X-MC-Unique: 32tHnE2JOVea-TZyytflSQ-1 X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 205.139.110.61 X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Kevin Wolf , Peter Maydell , "Daniel P. =?utf-8?Q?Berrang=C3=A9?=" , "Denis V. Lunev" , Cleber Rosa , Stefan Hajnoczi , "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" , Eduardo Habkost , qemu-devel , Paolo Bonzini , =?utf-8?Q?Marc-Andr=C3=A9?= Lureau , Dominik Csapak Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: "Qemu-devel" John Snow writes: > On 2/6/20 9:21 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote: [...] >> 2. Rewriting qmp-shell to use a better syntax for nested data >> structures. This would have to be defined before the project starts. >>=20 > > ... Can't start until we define the proper interface, because then we > have to support it. Right now, qmp-shell is a developer toy because it's > hidden in the tree. > > Promoting it to prime-time will be fruitless unless we come up with a > convincing TUI for it. Oh, it'll bear fruit alright! And that will be the problem. Back to serious: I also object to the idea to expose end users to qmp-shell in its current state. Do not ship. [...]