From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Nix Subject: Re: Fault tolerance with badblocks Date: Tue, 09 May 2017 17:11:49 +0100 Message-ID: <87ziem3t8a.fsf@esperi.org.uk> References: <03294ec0-2df0-8c1c-dd98-2e9e5efb6f4f@hale.ee> <590B3039.3060000@youngman.org.uk> <84184eb3-52c4-e7ad-cd5b-5021b5cf47ee@hale.ee> <590DC905.60207@youngman.org.uk> <87h90v8kt3.fsf@esperi.org.uk> <1533bba8-41cb-2c50-b28a-52786e463072@turmel.org> <87vapb6s9h.fsf@esperi.org.uk> <871sry728q.fsf@esperi.org.uk> <87fuge5liz.fsf@esperi.org.uk> <5a2d810b-85da-c224-133f-62eab291c161@thelounge.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: In-Reply-To: <5a2d810b-85da-c224-133f-62eab291c161@thelounge.net> (Reindl Harald's message of "Tue, 9 May 2017 13:48:45 +0200") Sender: linux-raid-owner@vger.kernel.org To: Reindl Harald Cc: Phil Turmel , Wols Lists , "Ravi (Tom) Hale" , linux-raid@vger.kernel.org List-Id: linux-raid.ids On 9 May 2017, Reindl Harald verbalised: > Am 09.05.2017 um 13:15 schrieb Nix: >> (Or were you not running any long self-tests? That's at least as risky >> as not scrubbing, IMNSHO.) > > no i do both regulary > > * smart short self-test daily > * smart long self-test weekly > * raid scrub weekly > > and no - doing a long-smart-test daily is not a good solution, the > RAID10 array in my office makes *terrible noises* when the SMART Agreed, though in my case not because of noise, but just because the test takes fourteen hours and noticeably degrades disk performance while it runs. I'm doing a long self-test monthly and frankly I'm wondering if every three months is sufficient. > well, that machine has not lost a single drive, a clone of it acting > as homeserver 365/24/7 has lost a dozen in the same time.... A *dozen*?! In six years? Even with a big array you've been incredibly unlucky, or you have young children and a corresponding disaster rate. (Meanwhile, my last machine, with much-maligned WD GreenPower variable-spin-rate disks, was completely happy for eight years, zero failures, zero reallocations that I can see. I can only hope my new lot are that good.)