From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1750751AbWBBRlh (ORCPT ); Thu, 2 Feb 2006 12:41:37 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750758AbWBBRlh (ORCPT ); Thu, 2 Feb 2006 12:41:37 -0500 Received: from goofy.fi.upm.es ([138.100.8.23]:21515 "EHLO goofy.fi.upm.es") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750751AbWBBRlg (ORCPT ); Thu, 2 Feb 2006 12:41:36 -0500 Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 18:40:27 +0100 From: egallego@babel.ls.fi.upm.es (Emilio =?utf-8?Q?Jes=C3=BAs?= Gallego Arias) Subject: Re: GPL V3 and Linux - Dead Copyright Holders In-reply-to: To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Karim Yaghmour , Filip Brcic , Glauber de Oliveira Costa , Thomas Horsten , linux-kernel Message-id: <87zml97j78.fsf@babel.ls.fi.upm.es> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) References: <43DE57C4.5010707@opersys.com> <5d6222a80601301143q3b527effq526482837e04ee5a@mail.gmail.com> <200601302301.04582.brcha@users.sourceforge.net> <43E0E282.1000908@opersys.com> <43E1C55A.7090801@drzeus.cx> <87mzha85sc.fsf@babel.ls.fi.upm.es> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Linus Torvalds writes: > Besides, the people who inserted the DRM code explicitly gave you > permission to modify it, so the whole point is moot. There's no > "circumvention". Yes, it is mostly clear, and indeed GPL3 seems a little bit over engineered, but that doesn't mean that GPL2 could not have any loopholes: 1. Release a kernel with builtin DRM for video. (For example HDCP [1]) Such DRM implementation is released under the GPL2 by copyright holder A. 2. Distribute a modified kernel without DRM. Copyright holder A gave you permission to do so, by the GPL2, everything is OK. 3. People can backup videos from copyright holder B using the modified kernel. 4. Copyright holder B can sue you under the DMCA, for circumventing an effective technological measure. It doesn't matter whatever license copyright holder A gave you. Regards, Emilio Footnotes: [1] High-Bandwidth Digital Content Protection. Currently you would never get a license for a GPL implementation, but it's used as an hypothetical example.