From: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp> To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>, linux-mm@kvack.org, Yong-Taek Lee <ytk.lee@samsung.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm, oom: Tolerate processes sharing mm with different view of oom_score_adj. Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 20:30:25 +0900 [thread overview] Message-ID: <88e10029-f3d9-5bb5-be46-a3547c54de28@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20190116110937.GI24149@dhcp22.suse.cz> On 2019/01/16 20:09, Michal Hocko wrote: > On Wed 16-01-19 19:55:21, Tetsuo Handa wrote: >> This patch reverts both commit 44a70adec910d692 ("mm, oom_adj: make sure >> processes sharing mm have same view of oom_score_adj") and commit >> 97fd49c2355ffded ("mm, oom: kill all tasks sharing the mm") in order to >> close a race and reduce the latency at __set_oom_adj(), and reduces the >> warning at __oom_kill_process() in order to minimize the latency. >> >> Commit 36324a990cf578b5 ("oom: clear TIF_MEMDIE after oom_reaper managed >> to unmap the address space") introduced the worst case mentioned in >> 44a70adec910d692. But since the OOM killer skips mm with MMF_OOM_SKIP set, >> only administrators can trigger the worst case. >> >> Since 44a70adec910d692 did not take latency into account, we can hold RCU >> for minutes and trigger RCU stall warnings by calling printk() on many >> thousands of thread groups. Even without calling printk(), the latency is >> mentioned by Yong-Taek Lee [1]. And I noticed that 44a70adec910d692 is >> racy, and trying to fix the race will require a global lock which is too >> costly for rare events. >> >> If the worst case in 44a70adec910d692 happens, it is an administrator's >> request. Therefore, tolerate the worst case and speed up __set_oom_adj(). > > I really do not think we care about latency. I consider the overal API > sanity much more important. Besides that the original report you are > referring to was never exaplained/shown to represent real world usecase. > oom_score_adj is not really a an interface to be tweaked in hot paths. I do care about the latency. Holding RCU for more than 2 minutes is insane. ---------- #define _GNU_SOURCE #include <stdio.h> #include <sys/types.h> #include <sys/stat.h> #include <fcntl.h> #include <unistd.h> #include <sched.h> #include <sys/mman.h> #include <signal.h> #define STACKSIZE 8192 static int child(void *unused) { pause(); return 0; } int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { int fd = open("/proc/self/oom_score_adj", O_WRONLY); int i; char *stack = mmap(NULL, STACKSIZE, PROT_WRITE | PROT_READ, MAP_ANONYMOUS | MAP_PRIVATE, EOF, 0); for (i = 0; i < 8192 * 4; i++) if (clone(child, stack + STACKSIZE, CLONE_VM, NULL) == -1) break; write(fd, "0\n", 2); kill(0, SIGSEGV); return 0; } ---------- > > I can be convinced otherwise but that really requires some _real_ > usecase with an explanation why there is no other way. Until then > > Nacked-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-01-16 11:30 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2019-01-16 10:55 Tetsuo Handa 2019-01-16 11:09 ` Michal Hocko 2019-01-16 11:30 ` Tetsuo Handa [this message] 2019-01-16 12:19 ` Michal Hocko 2019-01-16 13:32 ` Tetsuo Handa 2019-01-16 13:41 ` Michal Hocko 2019-01-17 10:40 ` Tetsuo Handa 2019-01-17 15:51 ` Michal Hocko 2019-01-30 22:49 ` [PATCH v2] " Tetsuo Handa 2019-01-31 7:11 ` Michal Hocko 2019-01-31 20:59 ` Tetsuo Handa 2019-02-01 9:14 ` Michal Hocko 2019-02-02 11:06 ` Tetsuo Handa 2019-02-11 15:07 ` Michal Hocko
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