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From: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
To: Stefano Brivio <sbrivio@redhat.com>, Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, aconole@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 1/3] udp_tunnel: allow to turn off path mtu discovery on encap sockets
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 09:04:51 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <89e5ec7b-845f-ab23-5043-73e797a29a14@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200717142743.6d05d3ae@elisabeth>

On 7/17/20 6:27 AM, Stefano Brivio wrote:
>>
>>> Note that this doesn't work as it is because of a number of reasons
>>> (skb doesn't have a dst, pkt_type is not PACKET_HOST), and perhaps we
>>> shouldn't be using icmp_send(), but at a glance that looks simpler.  
>>
>> Yes, it also requires that the bridge has IP connectivity
>> to reach the inner ip, which might not be the case.
> 
> If the VXLAN endpoint is a port of the bridge, that needs to be the
> case, right? Otherwise the VXLAN endpoint can't be reached.
> 
>>> Another slight preference I have towards this idea is that the only
>>> known way we can break PMTU discovery right now is by using a bridge,
>>> so fixing the problem there looks more future-proof than addressing any
>>> kind of tunnel with this problem. I think FoU and GUE would hit the
>>> same problem, I don't know about IP tunnels, sticking that selftest
>>> snippet to whatever other test in pmtu.sh should tell.  
>>
>> Every type of bridge port that needs to add additional header on egress
>> has this problem in the bridge scenario once the peer of the IP tunnel
>> signals a PMTU event.
> 
> Yes :(
> 

The vxlan/tunnel device knows it is a bridge port, and it knows it is
going to push a udp and ip{v6} header. So why not use that information
in setting / updating the MTU? That's what I was getting at on Monday
with my comment about lwtunnel_headroom equivalent.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-17 15:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-12 20:07 [PATCH net-next 0/3] vxlan, geneve: allow to turn off PMTU updates on encap socket Florian Westphal
2020-07-12 20:07 ` [PATCH net-next 1/3] udp_tunnel: allow to turn off path mtu discovery on encap sockets Florian Westphal
2020-07-12 22:38   ` Stefano Brivio
2020-07-13  8:04     ` Florian Westphal
2020-07-13 10:04       ` Stefano Brivio
2020-07-13 10:51         ` Numan Siddique
2020-07-14 20:38           ` Aaron Conole
2020-07-15 11:58             ` Stefano Brivio
2020-07-13 13:25       ` David Ahern
2020-07-13 14:02         ` Florian Westphal
2020-07-13 14:41           ` David Ahern
2020-07-13 14:59             ` Florian Westphal
2020-07-13 15:57               ` Stefano Brivio
2020-07-13 16:22                 ` Florian Westphal
2020-07-14 12:33                   ` Stefano Brivio
2020-07-14 12:33           ` Stefano Brivio
2020-07-15 12:42             ` Florian Westphal
2020-07-15 13:35               ` Stefano Brivio
2020-07-15 14:33                 ` Florian Westphal
2020-07-17 12:27                   ` Stefano Brivio
2020-07-17 15:04                     ` David Ahern [this message]
2020-07-17 18:43                       ` Florian Westphal
2020-07-18  6:56                       ` Stefano Brivio
2020-07-18 17:02                         ` David Ahern
2020-07-18 17:58                           ` Stefano Brivio
2020-07-18 18:04                             ` Stefano Brivio
2020-07-19 18:43                             ` David Ahern
2020-07-19 21:49                               ` Stefano Brivio
2020-07-20  3:19                                 ` David Ahern
2020-07-26 17:01                                   ` Stefano Brivio
2020-07-12 20:07 ` [PATCH net-next 2/3] vxlan: allow to disable path mtu learning on encap socket Florian Westphal
2020-07-16 19:33   ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-07-17 10:13     ` Florian Westphal
2020-07-12 20:07 ` [PATCH net-next 3/3] geneve: allow disabling of pmtu detection on encap sk Florian Westphal
2020-07-12 22:39 ` [PATCH net-next 0/3] vxlan, geneve: allow to turn off PMTU updates on encap socket Stefano Brivio

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