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From: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] Draft agenda for the kernel summit
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 10:00:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8E20B896-416E-4C76-877B-26B558D44422@holtmann.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8179129.ZdLT4uWW88@wuerfel>

Hi Arnd,

>> On Thu, 2015-10-15 at 19:41 -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
>> the unwillingness of chip
>> vendors (hi Broadcom, Qualcomm, MediaTek) to have an upstream driver
>> that they actually use (some of those do support an upstream driver,
>> but don't ship that one and it doesn't nearly have the necessary
>> features, while the actually used (still open source [1]) driver is a
>> pile of spaghetti code that we'd probably never merge upstream...)
>> 
>> [1] except for MediaTek, I think, who seem to never be releasing source
>> code for any of their kernels
>> 
> 
> (getting offtopic here)
> 
> My understanding is that MediaTek has improved much recently and their
> mt76 wireless driver source is available and getting upstreamed now
> and integrated into openwrt now. OTOH, Broadcom apparently regressed and is
> no longer releasing any source code to their newer softmac parts (bcm4360,
> bcm4352) or patching brcmsmac to support them, while they on the other
> hand got better at upstreaming their SoC support recently.

are sure that Mediatek got better? I am not convinced by that.

I think there is also a large difference in their MiniPCI cards compared to their connectivity hub in their SoC. The Bluetooth side for example is largely copying existing drivers, hacking their vendor specific behavior in and then throwing it over the wall.

Regards

Marcel

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-16  8:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-12 19:01 [Ksummit-discuss] Draft agenda for the kernel summit Theodore Ts'o
2015-10-13  4:00 ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-13 13:31 ` Linus Walleij
2015-10-16  0:41 ` Rob Herring
2015-10-16  6:52   ` Johannes Berg
2015-10-16  7:55     ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-16  8:00       ` Marcel Holtmann [this message]
2015-10-16  8:37         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-10-16  9:21         ` Linus Walleij
2015-10-16  8:00       ` Johannes Berg
2015-10-16  7:57   ` Samuel Ortiz
2015-10-16  8:45     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-10-16 13:09     ` Rob Herring
2015-10-16  9:03   ` Mark Brown
2015-10-16  8:04 ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-10-19 12:33 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-10-19 13:53   ` Mark Brown
2015-10-19 16:27     ` Liam Girdwood
2015-10-19 19:34       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-10-19 20:46         ` Shuah Khan
2015-10-20 11:55           ` Liam Girdwood
2015-10-20 13:22             ` Mark Brown
2015-10-20 15:34               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-10-22  8:34                 ` Sakari Ailus
2015-10-22  8:49                 ` Sakari Ailus
2015-10-20 15:18             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-10-20 15:47               ` Takashi Iwai
2015-10-20 16:11                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-10-20 23:39               ` Shuah Khan
2015-10-20 13:13         ` Mark Brown
2015-10-20 15:29           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-10-20 15:56             ` Mark Brown
2015-10-21  0:04       ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-10-21 10:24         ` Liam Girdwood
2015-10-21 10:24         ` Mark Brown
2015-10-21  8:59       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-10-19 18:48   ` Jonathan Cameron
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-10-13  0:15 [Ksummit-discuss] Draft Agenda for the Kernel Summit Theodore Ts'o
2017-10-13 18:28 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2017-10-20  0:30   ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-10-16  6:35 ` James Morris
2017-10-19 11:35 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-10-20  0:32   ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-10-20  0:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-10-20 19:46   ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-10-21  1:02     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-10-20  2:18 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-10-20  3:32   ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2017-10-20 11:19     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-10-20  2:19 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-10-20 14:31   ` Shuah Khan
2017-10-20 15:27     ` James Bottomley
2017-10-20 19:16       ` Shuah Khan
2017-10-20  6:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-10-20 15:57   ` Joe Perches
2017-10-20 19:50     ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-10-31  5:10       ` Joe Perches
2017-10-31 18:16         ` Jonathan Corbet
     [not found] <1445272350.2481.40.camel@loki>
2015-10-19 18:52 ` [Ksummit-discuss] Draft agenda for the kernel summit Mark Brown
2014-08-11 22:45 Theodore Ts'o
     [not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.10.1408152014100.2503@hadrien>
2014-08-15 22:35   ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-08-16  0:27 ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-08-16  2:17   ` Theodore Ts'o

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