From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43073) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eb8YA-0002sy-DC for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 15 Jan 2018 12:28:02 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eb8Y4-0005X5-BJ for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 15 Jan 2018 12:27:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 18:27:41 +0100 From: Jean-Christophe Dubois In-Reply-To: References: <20180110204327.22510-1-jcd@tribudubois.net> <548464fa8211307b397a5f50122abd3d@tribudubois.net> <04ce75e9cdb6e001830c720196208e7f@tribudubois.net> <44e1abb6-88e7-95a0-ff27-fed969eb3a9c@adacore.com> Message-ID: <8b247357a2e52d16d287db87b5d0957a@tribudubois.net> Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] LEON3 IRQMP: Fix IRQ software ack List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Fabien Chouteau Cc: KONRAD Frederic , Qemu-devel , mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk, qemu-devel@nongnu.org Le 2018-01-15 14:45, Jean-Christophe Dubois a écrit : > Le 2018-01-15 12:09, Fabien Chouteau a écrit : >> On 12/01/2018 15:10, Jean-Christophe Dubois wrote: >>> Le 2018-01-12 11:55, Fabien Chouteau a écrit : >>>> On 11/01/2018 13:35, Jean-Christophe Dubois wrote: >>>>> Thanks Fabien, >>>>> >>>>> Now, as a side question, could you tell me which reference LEON3 >>>>> platform is implemented by Qemu in leon3_generic? >>>>> >>>> >>>> I think it was the based on the FPGA version of Leon3 I was using at >>>> the >>>> time. The name leon3_generic comes from my will to make it a >>>> configurable board where users could define the number and the >>>> location >>>> of the different peripherals, I never had time to work on this. >>> >>> I see. I am not sure how to bring configurability to Qemu. There is >>> the possibility to describe the hw PTF with DTC/DTB or something >>> similar. I think some people were working on it for the ARM Qemu >>> platform (but I am not sure what happened to this initiative). >>> >>> Now in the meantime, would it make sense to move leon3_generic to a >>> tsim compatible platform? >>> >> >> I don't think so, leon3_generic is compatible with a real hardware >> which >> is also interesting for comparison. > > What real hardware (gaisler reference platform) is it? Could you point > to the public reference manual for this hardware? > > Another possibility is to add a leon3_tsim platform into Qemu to > support the compatibility with the tsim emulator. But the difference > with leon3_generic would be minimal. > >> >>> This would allow to validate the same software on the 2 simulators >>> (obviously it would not be compatible with your specific FPGA version >>> for now). >>> >> >> The Leon3 AMBA bus provides a way to discover the peripherals and >> their >> address, so any system should be capable of supporting different >> peripheral layouts. >> >> Here's an example of AMBA discovery code from a very old project of >> mine >> (don't judge me on this :) : >> https://github.com/Fabien-Chouteau/kabitbol/blob/master/src/amba.c >> >> There was a couple of patches submitted some times ago to add Leon3 >> AMBA >> support in QEMU, I think it's time to bring them back... > > What you are talking about here is the possibility for the software > running inside Qemu to probe/discover the hardware. For such feature > Qemu should implement what is required for this AMBA discovery. But it > does not solve how you decide at run time at what addresses are the > various AMBA devices (how you decide to emulate a tsim platform or > another one). > > Note: For now I am not so much interested in the AMBA discovery as the > type of software platform I am thinking about is embedded where the > hardware is well known ahead of time. This discovery capability would > make sense for more generic OS like linux or such. We cannot require > all embedded OS to implement the AMBA discovery process. For the configurability of Qemu, I was thinking of using something similar to the Qemu provided by Xilinx (http://www.wiki.xilinx.com/QEMU). Basically, you provide a DTB file as a Qemu command line argument and Qemu will build the various devices (including addresses and interrupts) based on the content of this file. Then when running an OS, it can provide the DTB file (for example to Linux) that match exactly the emulated platform. This should allow to build "any" variation of the platform and to add devices as you need them. This makes sense for Xilinx (their customer are building custom platforms) and it would also make sense for LEON as the CPU core is usually integrated inside a custom SOC/FPGA. JC