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[73.241.217.19]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id fy21sm2702187pjb.38.2020.06.16.07.08.45 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 16 Jun 2020 07:08:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [PATCH] scsi: target/sbp: remove firewire SBP target driver To: Finn Thain , Chris Boot Cc: linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, target-devel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux1394-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Chuhong Yuan , "Martin K . Petersen" , Nicholas Bellinger , Stefan Richter References: <01020172acd3d10f-3964f076-a820-43fc-9494-3f3946e9b7b5-000000@eu-west-1.amazonses.com> <7ad14946-5c25-fc49-1e48-72d37a607832@boo.tc> <8da0c285-d707-a3d2-063e-472af5cc560f@boo.tc> From: Bart Van Assche Autocrypt: addr=bvanassche@acm.org; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQENBFSOu4oBCADcRWxVUvkkvRmmwTwIjIJvZOu6wNm+dz5AF4z0FHW2KNZL3oheO3P8UZWr LQOrCfRcK8e/sIs2Y2D3Lg/SL7qqbMehGEYcJptu6mKkywBfoYbtBkVoJ/jQsi2H0vBiiCOy fmxMHIPcYxaJdXxrOG2UO4B60Y/BzE6OrPDT44w4cZA9DH5xialliWU447Bts8TJNa3lZKS1 AvW1ZklbvJfAJJAwzDih35LxU2fcWbmhPa7EO2DCv/LM1B10GBB/oQB5kvlq4aA2PSIWkqz4 3SI5kCPSsygD6wKnbRsvNn2mIACva6VHdm62A7xel5dJRfpQjXj2snd1F/YNoNc66UUTABEB AAG0JEJhcnQgVmFuIEFzc2NoZSA8YnZhbmFzc2NoZUBhY20ub3JnPokBOQQTAQIAIwUCVI67 igIbAwcLCQgHAwIBBhUIAgkKCwQWAgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEHFcPTXFzhAJ8QkH/1AdXblKL65M Y1Zk1bYKnkAb4a98LxCPm/pJBilvci6boefwlBDZ2NZuuYWYgyrehMB5H+q+Kq4P0IBbTqTa jTPAANn62A6jwJ0FnCn6YaM9TZQjM1F7LoDX3v+oAkaoXuq0dQ4hnxQNu792bi6QyVdZUvKc macVFVgfK9n04mL7RzjO3f+X4midKt/s+G+IPr4DGlrq+WH27eDbpUR3aYRk8EgbgGKvQFdD CEBFJi+5ZKOArmJVBSk21RHDpqyz6Vit3rjep7c1SN8s7NhVi9cjkKmMDM7KYhXkWc10lKx2 RTkFI30rkDm4U+JpdAd2+tP3tjGf9AyGGinpzE2XY1K5AQ0EVI67igEIAKiSyd0nECrgz+H5 PcFDGYQpGDMTl8MOPCKw/F3diXPuj2eql4xSbAdbUCJzk2ETif5s3twT2ER8cUTEVOaCEUY3 eOiaFgQ+nGLx4BXqqGewikPJCe+UBjFnH1m2/IFn4T9jPZkV8xlkKmDUqMK5EV9n3eQLkn5g lco+FepTtmbkSCCjd91EfThVbNYpVQ5ZjdBCXN66CKyJDMJ85HVr5rmXG/nqriTh6cv1l1Js T7AFvvPjUPknS6d+BETMhTkbGzoyS+sywEsQAgA+BMCxBH4LvUmHYhpS+W6CiZ3ZMxjO8Hgc ++w1mLeRUvda3i4/U8wDT3SWuHcB3DWlcppECLkAEQEAAYkBHwQYAQIACQUCVI67igIbDAAK CRBxXD01xc4QCZ4dB/0QrnEasxjM0PGeXK5hcZMT9Eo998alUfn5XU0RQDYdwp6/kMEXMdmT oH0F0xB3SQ8WVSXA9rrc4EBvZruWQ+5/zjVrhhfUAx12CzL4oQ9Ro2k45daYaonKTANYG22y //x8dLe2Fv1By4SKGhmzwH87uXxbTJAUxiWIi1np0z3/RDnoVyfmfbbL1DY7zf2hYXLLzsJR mSsED/1nlJ9Oq5fALdNEPgDyPUerqHxcmIub+pF0AzJoYHK5punqpqfGmqPbjxrJLPJfHVKy goMj5DlBMoYqEgpbwdUYkH6QdizJJCur4icy8GUNbisFYABeoJ91pnD4IGei3MTdvINSZI5e Message-ID: <8cbab988-fba7-8e27-7faf-9f7aa36ca235@acm.org> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 07:08:40 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 2020-06-16 02:42, Finn Thain wrote: > Martin said, "I'd appreciate a patch to remove it" > > And Bart said, "do you want to keep this driver in the kernel tree?" > > AFAICT both comments are quite ambiguous. I don't see an actionable > request, just an expression of interest from people doing their jobs. > > Note well: there is no pay check associated with having a MAINTAINERS file > entry. Hi Finn, As far as I know the sbp driver only has had one user ever and that user is no longer user the sbp driver. So why to keep it in the kernel tree? Restoring a kernel driver can be easy - the first step is a "git revert". Thanks, Bart. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bart Van Assche Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 14:08:40 +0000 Subject: Re: [PATCH] scsi: target/sbp: remove firewire SBP target driver Message-Id: <8cbab988-fba7-8e27-7faf-9f7aa36ca235@acm.org> List-Id: References: <01020172acd3d10f-3964f076-a820-43fc-9494-3f3946e9b7b5-000000@eu-west-1.amazonses.com> <7ad14946-5c25-fc49-1e48-72d37a607832@boo.tc> <8da0c285-d707-a3d2-063e-472af5cc560f@boo.tc> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Finn Thain , Chris Boot Cc: linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, target-devel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux1394-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Chuhong Yuan , "Martin K . Petersen" , Nicholas Bellinger , Stefan Richter On 2020-06-16 02:42, Finn Thain wrote: > Martin said, "I'd appreciate a patch to remove it" > > And Bart said, "do you want to keep this driver in the kernel tree?" > > AFAICT both comments are quite ambiguous. I don't see an actionable > request, just an expression of interest from people doing their jobs. > > Note well: there is no pay check associated with having a MAINTAINERS file > entry. Hi Finn, As far as I know the sbp driver only has had one user ever and that user is no longer user the sbp driver. So why to keep it in the kernel tree? Restoring a kernel driver can be easy - the first step is a "git revert". Thanks, Bart. 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Petersen" , linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, Chuhong Yuan , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Nicholas Bellinger , target-devel@vger.kernel.org, linux1394-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, Stefan Richter Errors-To: linuxppc-dev-bounces+linuxppc-dev=archiver.kernel.org@lists.ozlabs.org Sender: "Linuxppc-dev" On 2020-06-16 02:42, Finn Thain wrote: > Martin said, "I'd appreciate a patch to remove it" > > And Bart said, "do you want to keep this driver in the kernel tree?" > > AFAICT both comments are quite ambiguous. I don't see an actionable > request, just an expression of interest from people doing their jobs. > > Note well: there is no pay check associated with having a MAINTAINERS file > entry. Hi Finn, As far as I know the sbp driver only has had one user ever and that user is no longer user the sbp driver. So why to keep it in the kernel tree? Restoring a kernel driver can be easy - the first step is a "git revert". Thanks, Bart.