From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B39C433DF for ; Mon, 18 May 2020 20:31:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A4F2081A for ; Mon, 18 May 2020 20:31:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726276AbgERUbD (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 May 2020 16:31:03 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:58124 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726227AbgERUbD (ORCPT ); Mon, 18 May 2020 16:31:03 -0400 Received: from sipsolutions.net (s3.sipsolutions.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:191:4433::2]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 407B0C061A0C; Mon, 18 May 2020 13:31:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sipsolutions.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_SECP256R1__RSA_PSS_RSAE_SHA256__AES_256_GCM:256) (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1jamOZ-00FkWP-9n; Mon, 18 May 2020 22:29:55 +0200 Message-ID: <8d7a3bed242ac9d3ec55a4c97e008081230f1f6d.camel@sipsolutions.net> Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 12/15] ath10k: use new module_firmware_crashed() From: Johannes Berg To: Jakub Kicinski Cc: Luis Chamberlain , Steve deRosier , Ben Greear , jeyu@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, arnd@arndb.de, rostedt@goodmis.org, mingo@redhat.com, aquini@redhat.com, cai@lca.pw, dyoung@redhat.com, bhe@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org, tglx@linutronix.de, gpiccoli@canonical.com, pmladek@suse.com, Takashi Iwai , schlad@suse.de, andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com, keescook@chromium.org, daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch, will@kernel.org, mchehab+samsung@kernel.org, Kalle Valo , "David S. Miller" , Network Development , LKML , linux-wireless , ath10k@lists.infradead.org Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 22:29:53 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20200518132828.553159d9@kicinski-fedora-pc1c0hjn.dhcp.thefacebook.com> References: <20200515212846.1347-1-mcgrof@kernel.org> <20200515212846.1347-13-mcgrof@kernel.org> <2b74a35c726e451b2fab2b5d0d301e80d1f4cdc7.camel@sipsolutions.net> <20200518165154.GH11244@42.do-not-panic.com> <4ad0668d-2de9-11d7-c3a1-ad2aedd0c02d@candelatech.com> <20200518170934.GJ11244@42.do-not-panic.com> <20200518171801.GL11244@42.do-not-panic.com> <20200518190930.GO11244@42.do-not-panic.com> <20200518132828.553159d9@kicinski-fedora-pc1c0hjn.dhcp.thefacebook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" User-Agent: Evolution 3.36.2 (3.36.2-1.fc32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 2020-05-18 at 13:28 -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote: > On Mon, 18 May 2020 21:25:09 +0200 Johannes Berg wrote: > > It's pretty clear, but even then, first of all I doubt this is the case > > for many of the places that you've sprinkled the annotation on, and > > secondly it actually hides useful information. > > > > Regardless of the support issue, I think this hiding of information is > > also problematic. > > > > I really think we'd all be better off if you just made a sysfs file (I > > mistyped debugfs in some other email, sorry, apparently you didn't see > > the correction in time) that listed which device(s) crashed and how many > > times. That would actually be useful. Because honestly, if a random > > device crashed for some random reason, that's pretty much a non-event. > > If it keeps happening, then we might even want to know about it. > > Johannes - have you seen devlink health? I think we should just use > that interface, since it supports all the things you're requesting, > rather than duplicate it in sysfs. I haven't, and I'm glad to hear that's there, sounds good! I suspect that Luis wants something more generic though, that isn't just applicable to netdevices, unless devlink grew some kind of non-netdev stuff while I wasn't looking? :) johannes From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-path: Received: from s3.sipsolutions.net ([2a01:4f8:191:4433::2] helo=sipsolutions.net) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtps (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1jamPi-0006Qm-Tk for ath10k@lists.infradead.org; Mon, 18 May 2020 20:31:08 +0000 Message-ID: <8d7a3bed242ac9d3ec55a4c97e008081230f1f6d.camel@sipsolutions.net> Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 12/15] ath10k: use new module_firmware_crashed() From: Johannes Berg Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 22:29:53 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20200518132828.553159d9@kicinski-fedora-pc1c0hjn.dhcp.thefacebook.com> References: <20200515212846.1347-1-mcgrof@kernel.org> <20200515212846.1347-13-mcgrof@kernel.org> <2b74a35c726e451b2fab2b5d0d301e80d1f4cdc7.camel@sipsolutions.net> <20200518165154.GH11244@42.do-not-panic.com> <4ad0668d-2de9-11d7-c3a1-ad2aedd0c02d@candelatech.com> <20200518170934.GJ11244@42.do-not-panic.com> <20200518171801.GL11244@42.do-not-panic.com> <20200518190930.GO11244@42.do-not-panic.com> <20200518132828.553159d9@kicinski-fedora-pc1c0hjn.dhcp.thefacebook.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "ath10k" Errors-To: ath10k-bounces+kvalo=adurom.com@lists.infradead.org To: Jakub Kicinski Cc: linux-wireless , aquini@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org, daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch, mchehab+samsung@kernel.org, will@kernel.org, Ben Greear , bhe@redhat.com, ath10k@lists.infradead.org, Steve deRosier , Takashi Iwai , mingo@redhat.com, dyoung@redhat.com, pmladek@suse.com, keescook@chromium.org, arnd@arndb.de, gpiccoli@canonical.com, rostedt@goodmis.org, cai@lca.pw, tglx@linutronix.de, andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com, Kalle Valo , Network Development , schlad@suse.de, LKML , Luis Chamberlain , jeyu@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, "David S. Miller" On Mon, 2020-05-18 at 13:28 -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote: > On Mon, 18 May 2020 21:25:09 +0200 Johannes Berg wrote: > > It's pretty clear, but even then, first of all I doubt this is the case > > for many of the places that you've sprinkled the annotation on, and > > secondly it actually hides useful information. > > > > Regardless of the support issue, I think this hiding of information is > > also problematic. > > > > I really think we'd all be better off if you just made a sysfs file (I > > mistyped debugfs in some other email, sorry, apparently you didn't see > > the correction in time) that listed which device(s) crashed and how many > > times. That would actually be useful. Because honestly, if a random > > device crashed for some random reason, that's pretty much a non-event. > > If it keeps happening, then we might even want to know about it. > > Johannes - have you seen devlink health? I think we should just use > that interface, since it supports all the things you're requesting, > rather than duplicate it in sysfs. I haven't, and I'm glad to hear that's there, sounds good! I suspect that Luis wants something more generic though, that isn't just applicable to netdevices, unless devlink grew some kind of non-netdev stuff while I wasn't looking? :) johannes _______________________________________________ ath10k mailing list ath10k@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/ath10k