From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Christian_K=c3=b6nig?= Subject: Re: [PATCH] ttm: wait mem space if user allow while gpu busy Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 09:30:12 +0200 Message-ID: <8db16fe8-78fe-7f25-4acd-51e37e645f3b@gmail.com> References: <20190422103836.4300-1-david1.zhou@amd.com> <1c98b839-362d-c279-1abb-c022aed3abf1@gmail.com> <-jm8957cqk536djh1631fvvv-xx4wzb5q21ak-v8q7rd2l14aq-f68kxr7kbea18a7xceae626b-8s84c4d1mgrg53g0bhq3ahee89h70qrv4ly1-vf5a7d63x4mbquxnfmiehuk2-rwaw2m-qc2chu.1556032141262@email.android.com> <32f2a1b7-99f8-de9a-799c-f98af308842b@gmail.com> Reply-To: christian.koenig@amd.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1514799945==" Return-path: Received: from mail-wr1-x441.google.com (mail-wr1-x441.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::441]) by gabe.freedesktop.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD177897FF for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 07:30:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wr1-x441.google.com with SMTP id b1so12280095wru.3 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 00:30:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: dri-devel-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org Sender: "dri-devel" To: zhoucm1 , christian.koenig@amd.com, "Zhou, David(ChunMing)" , "Liang, Prike" , "dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org" List-Id: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1514799945== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------BD49CCBB658F0A871E894716" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------BD49CCBB658F0A871E894716 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit That would change the semantics of ttm_bo_mem_space() and so could change the return code in an IOCTL as well. Not a good idea, cause that could have a lot of side effects. Instead in the calling DC code you could check if you get an -ENOMEM and then call schedule(). If after the schedule() we see that we have now BOs on the LRU we can try again and see if pinning the frame buffer now succeeds. Christian. Am 24.04.19 um 09:17 schrieb zhoucm1: > > I made a patch as attached. > > I'm not sure how to make patch as your proposal, Could you make a > patch for that if mine isn't enough? > > -David > > On 2019年04月24日 15:12, Christian König wrote: >>> how about just adding a wrapper for pin function as below? >> I considered this as well and don't think it will work reliable. >> >> We could use it as a band aid for this specific problem, but in >> general we need to improve the handling in TTM to resolve those kind >> of resource conflicts. >> >> Regards, >> Christian. >> >> Am 23.04.19 um 17:09 schrieb Zhou, David(ChunMing): >>> >3. If we have a ticket we grab a reference to the first BO on the >>> LRU, drop the LRU lock and try to grab the reservation lock with the >>> ticket. >>> >>> The BO on LRU is already locked by cs user, can it be dropped here >>> by DC user? and then DC user grab its lock with ticket, how does CS >>> grab it again? >>> >>> If you think waiting in ttm has this risk, how about just adding a >>> wrapper for pin function as below? >>> amdgpu_get_pin_bo_timeout() >>> { >>> do { >>> amdgpo_bo_reserve(); >>> r=amdgpu_bo_pin(); >>> >>> if(!r) >>>         break; >>> amdgpu_bo_unreserve(); >>> timeout--; >>> >>> } while(timeout>0); >>> >>> } >>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: Re: [PATCH] ttm: wait mem space if user allow while gpu busy >>> From: Christian König >>> To: "Zhou, David(ChunMing)" ,"Koenig, Christian" ,"Liang, Prike" >>> ,dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org >>> CC: >>> >>> Well that's not so easy of hand. >>> >>> The basic problem here is that when you busy wait at this place you >>> can easily run into situations where application A busy waits for B >>> while B busy waits for A -> deadlock. >>> >>> So what we need here is the deadlock detection logic of the >>> ww_mutex. To use this we at least need to do the following steps: >>> >>> 1. Reserve the BO in DC using a ww_mutex ticket (trivial). >>> >>> 2. If we then run into this EBUSY condition in TTM check if the BO >>> we need memory for (or rather the ww_mutex of its reservation >>> object) has a ticket assigned. >>> >>> 3. If we have a ticket we grab a reference to the first BO on the >>> LRU, drop the LRU lock and try to grab the reservation lock with the >>> ticket. >>> >>> 4. If getting the reservation lock with the ticket succeeded we >>> check if the BO is still the first one on the LRU in question (the >>> BO could have moved). >>> >>> 5. If the BO is still the first one on the LRU in question we try to >>> evict it as we would evict any other BO. >>> >>> 6. If any of the "If's" above fail we just back off and return -EBUSY. >>> >>> Steps 2-5 are certainly not trivial, but doable as far as I can see. >>> >>> Have fun :) >>> Christian. >>> >>> Am 23.04.19 um 15:19 schrieb Zhou, David(ChunMing): >>>> How about adding more condition ctx->resv inline to address your >>>> concern? As well as don't wait from same user, shouldn't lead to >>>> deadlock. >>>> >>>> Otherwise, any other idea? >>>> >>>> -------- Original Message -------- >>>> Subject: Re: [PATCH] ttm: wait mem space if user allow while gpu busy >>>> From: Christian König >>>> To: "Liang, Prike" ,"Zhou, David(ChunMing)" >>>> ,dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org >>>> CC: >>>> >>>> Well that is certainly a NAK because it can lead to deadlock in the >>>> memory management. >>>> >>>> You can't just busy wait with all those locks held. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Christian. >>>> >>>> Am 23.04.19 um 03:45 schrieb Liang, Prike: >>>> > Acked-by: Prike Liang >>>> > >>>> > Thanks, >>>> > Prike >>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>> > From: Chunming Zhou >>>> > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:39 PM >>>> > To: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org >>>> > Cc: Liang, Prike ; Zhou, David(ChunMing) >>>> >>>> > Subject: [PATCH] ttm: wait mem space if user allow while gpu busy >>>> > >>>> > heavy gpu job could occupy memory long time, which could lead to >>>> other user fail to get memory. >>>> > >>>> > Change-Id: I0b322d98cd76e5ac32b00462bbae8008d76c5e11 >>>> > Signed-off-by: Chunming Zhou >>>> > --- >>>> >   drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm_bo.c | 6 ++++-- >>>> >   1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) >>>> > >>>> > diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm_bo.c >>>> b/drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm_bo.c index 7c484729f9b2..6c596cc24bec 100644 >>>> > --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm_bo.c >>>> > +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm_bo.c >>>> > @@ -830,8 +830,10 @@ static int ttm_bo_mem_force_space(struct >>>> ttm_buffer_object *bo, >>>> >                if (mem->mm_node) >>>> >                        break; >>>> >                ret = ttm_mem_evict_first(bdev, mem_type, place, ctx); >>>> > -             if (unlikely(ret != 0)) >>>> > -                     return ret; >>>> > +             if (unlikely(ret != 0)) { >>>> > +                     if (!ctx || ctx->no_wait_gpu || ret != -EBUSY) >>>> > +                             return ret; >>>> > +             } >>>> >        } while (1); >>>> >        mem->mem_type = mem_type; >>>> >        return ttm_bo_add_move_fence(bo, man, mem); >>>> > -- >>>> > 2.17.1 >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > dri-devel mailing list >>>> > dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org >>>> > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> dri-devel mailing list >>>> dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org >>>> https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dri-devel mailing list >>> dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org >>> https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > dri-devel mailing list > dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel --------------BD49CCBB658F0A871E894716 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
That would change the semantics of ttm_bo_mem_space() and so could change the return code in an IOCTL as well. Not a good idea, cause that could have a lot of side effects.

Instead in the calling DC code you could check if you get an -ENOMEM and then call schedule().

If after the schedule() we see that we have now BOs on the LRU we can try again and see if pinning the frame buffer now succeeds.

Christian.

Am 24.04.19 um 09:17 schrieb zhoucm1:

I made a patch as attached.

I'm not sure how to make patch as your proposal, Could you make a patch for that if mine isn't enough?

-David

On 2019年04月24日 15:12, Christian König wrote:
how about just adding a wrapper for pin function as below?
I considered this as well and don't think it will work reliable.

We could use it as a band aid for this specific problem, but in general we need to improve the handling in TTM to resolve those kind of resource conflicts.

Regards,
Christian.

Am 23.04.19 um 17:09 schrieb Zhou, David(ChunMing):
>3. If we have a ticket we grab a reference to the first BO on the LRU, drop the LRU lock and try to grab the reservation lock with the ticket.

The BO on LRU is already locked by cs user, can it be dropped here by DC user? and then DC user grab its lock with ticket, how does CS grab it again?

If you think waiting in ttm has this risk, how about just adding a wrapper for pin function as below?
amdgpu_get_pin_bo_timeout()
{
do {
amdgpo_bo_reserve();
r=amdgpu_bo_pin();

if(!r)
        break;
amdgpu_bo_unreserve();
timeout--;

} while(timeout>0);

}

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ttm: wait mem space if user allow while gpu busy
From: Christian König
To: "Zhou, David(ChunMing)" ,"Koenig, Christian" ,"Liang, Prike" ,dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
CC:

Well that's not so easy of hand.

The basic problem here is that when you busy wait at this place you can easily run into situations where application A busy waits for B while B busy waits for A -> deadlock.

So what we need here is the deadlock detection logic of the ww_mutex. To use this we at least need to do the following steps:

1. Reserve the BO in DC using a ww_mutex ticket (trivial).

2. If we then run into this EBUSY condition in TTM check if the BO we need memory for (or rather the ww_mutex of its reservation object) has a ticket assigned.

3. If we have a ticket we grab a reference to the first BO on the LRU, drop the LRU lock and try to grab the reservation lock with the ticket.

4. If getting the reservation lock with the ticket succeeded we check if the BO is still the first one on the LRU in question (the BO could have moved).

5. If the BO is still the first one on the LRU in question we try to evict it as we would evict any other BO.

6. If any of the "If's" above fail we just back off and return -EBUSY.

Steps 2-5 are certainly not trivial, but doable as far as I can see.

Have fun :)
Christian.

Am 23.04.19 um 15:19 schrieb Zhou, David(ChunMing):
How about adding more condition ctx->resv inline to address your concern? As well as don't wait from same user, shouldn't lead to deadlock.

Otherwise, any other idea?

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ttm: wait mem space if user allow while gpu busy
From: Christian König
To: "Liang, Prike" ,"Zhou, David(ChunMing)" ,dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
CC:

Well that is certainly a NAK because it can lead to deadlock in the
memory management.

You can't just busy wait with all those locks held.

Regards,
Christian.

Am 23.04.19 um 03:45 schrieb Liang, Prike:
> Acked-by: Prike Liang <Prike.Liang@amd.com>
>
> Thanks,
> Prike
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chunming Zhou <david1.zhou@amd.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 6:39 PM
> To: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> Cc: Liang, Prike <Prike.Liang@amd.com>; Zhou, David(ChunMing) <David1.Zhou@amd.com>
> Subject: [PATCH] ttm: wait mem space if user allow while gpu busy
>
> heavy gpu job could occupy memory long time, which could lead to other user fail to get memory.
>
> Change-Id: I0b322d98cd76e5ac32b00462bbae8008d76c5e11
> Signed-off-by: Chunming Zhou <david1.zhou@amd.com>
> ---
>   drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm_bo.c | 6 ++++--
>   1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm_bo.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm_bo.c index 7c484729f9b2..6c596cc24bec 100644
> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm_bo.c
> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm_bo.c
> @@ -830,8 +830,10 @@ static int ttm_bo_mem_force_space(struct ttm_buffer_object *bo,
>                if (mem->mm_node)
>                        break;
>                ret = ttm_mem_evict_first(bdev, mem_type, place, ctx);
> -             if (unlikely(ret != 0))
> -                     return ret;
> +             if (unlikely(ret != 0)) {
> +                     if (!ctx || ctx->no_wait_gpu || ret != -EBUSY)
> +                             return ret;
> +             }
>        } while (1);
>        mem->mem_type = mem_type;
>        return ttm_bo_add_move_fence(bo, man, mem);
> --
> 2.17.1
>
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