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From: "Jakub Narebski" <jnareb@gmail.com>
To: "Federico Mena Quintero" <federico@novell.com>
Cc: "Johannes Schindelin" <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 01:27:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8fe92b430710191627k570d9acfh22255a3971f172ed@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1192827476.4522.93.camel@cacharro.xalalinux.org>

On 10/19/07, Federico Mena Quintero <federico@novell.com> wrote:

> "Make git more task-oriented rather than data-model-oriented" is about
> making the tool adapt to what you usually want to do, instead of making
> *you* adapt to the way the tool wants to work.  Many commands in Git
> have documentation like
>
>   "option --foo updates the refs without modifying the index.  Requires
>   a clean working tree"
>
> This is gibberish for people who are not very familiar with Git's
> internals.  "Git for computer scientists" provides a *very nice*
> explanation of the DAG and refs and tags, but unfortunately it doesn't
> explain the index, why you would want to know about it, etc.

That is what "Git User's Manual" (and tutorials) is for. And there is
glossary in documentation.

[...]
> It's nice that Git lets you manipulate the repository in all kinds of
> ways, but presenting porcelains at the same level as plumbing makes
> things hard for users to learn.  I was just in our Beijing office,
> teaching people about development tools and Git in particular.
>
>   Federico: "get Git from this location"
>
>   Beijing hacker: tap tap tap, "okay, it's installed now"
>
>   Federico "Git commands all start with 'git'"
>
>   Beijing hacker: git<Tab>
>
>   Bash: Display all 150 possibilities?
>
>   Beijing hacker: "oh, shit..."

It is better to use bash (or zsh) completion, than rely on completion
of commands names.

Beijing hacker: git <Tab>

(that is, space after 'git') shows around 62 commands.

> It's hard to know where to begin :)  Do I need "git-cherry-pick" or
> "git-cherry"?  Why is the "apply a patch" command called "git-am"?  Why
> is it different from "git-apply"?  From "git-applypatch"?  Etc.

I think git-cherry will soon be obsoleted and removed, such like
git-applymbox and it companion git-applypatch are being obsoleted by
git-am.

git-am applies series of patches _with description_ from messagebox,
creating commits if patch applies without conflicts. It requires git
extended patch for sensible operation; it is best when patch is result
of git-format-patch. git-apply is to apply GNU patch (optionally git
patch) to working area, or working area and index, but do not create a
commit. It is improved version of GNU patch utility (it understands
git extended diff syntax), but it is not meant (alone) to work with
commits send by email.

-- 
Jakub Narebski

  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-19 23:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 161+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-08 20:55 Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued Jakub Narebski
2007-10-12 22:08 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-10-12 23:36   ` Frank Lichtenheld
2007-10-13  0:46   ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-13  2:13     ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-13  2:53     ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-10-13 12:58     ` Frank Lichtenheld
2007-10-13 13:04       ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-13 18:00     ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-13 19:59     ` David Kastrup
2007-10-13 20:27       ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-13 20:57         ` David Kastrup
2007-10-14  0:36         ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-14  1:13           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-14  1:44             ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-10-14  3:15               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-14  3:43                 ` david
2007-10-14  3:55                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-14 10:20               ` Reece Dunn
2007-10-14 18:12                 ` Steven Grimm
2007-10-14 18:40                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-14 19:25                     ` Steven Grimm
2007-10-14 19:50                     ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-14 20:18                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-14 20:22                         ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-14 20:24                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-14 19:44                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-10-15 23:20                     ` Shawn O. Pearce
2007-10-16  2:48                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-10-16 10:51                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-14  2:06             ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-14  8:45               ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-14  9:21                 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-14 21:49       ` Jakub Narebski
2007-10-14 22:08         ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-14 22:17           ` David Kastrup
2007-10-14 22:12         ` David Kastrup
2007-10-14 22:15           ` Jakub Narebski
2007-10-14 22:23           ` Matthew Andrews
2007-10-14 22:30             ` David Kastrup
2007-10-14 21:10     ` David Tweed
2007-10-19 20:57     ` Federico Mena Quintero
2007-10-19 23:27       ` Jakub Narebski [this message]
2007-10-19 23:37       ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-22 14:28         ` Federico Mena Quintero
2007-10-20  8:03       ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-20 10:19         ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-20 11:29           ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-21  6:08             ` Dmitry Potapov
2007-10-20 23:06           ` Jakub Narebski
2007-10-20 23:33             ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-21  7:17               ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-21 22:15                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-22  7:59                   ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-22 11:04                     ` best git practices, was " Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-22 12:44                       ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-22 13:48                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-22 14:31                           ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-22 15:00                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-22 15:16                               ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-22 15:42                                 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-22 19:36                                 ` Federico Mena Quintero
2007-10-22 23:21                                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-25 19:04                                     ` Carl Worth
2007-10-22 23:35                             ` Jakub Narebski
2007-10-23  5:38                               ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-23 10:58                                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-24 18:48                                   ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-24 19:20                                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-24 19:41                                       ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-24 19:48                                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-24 20:12                                           ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-24 20:33                                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-24 21:06                                               ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-24 21:20                                                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-24 21:28                                                 ` Peter Baumann
2007-10-24 21:47                                                   ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-24 22:14                                                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-24 22:33                                                       ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-24 22:38                                                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-24 22:51                                                           ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-24 23:28                                                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-25  6:02                                                           ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-25 10:27                                                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-25 12:04                                                               ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-25  7:15                                                           ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25  7:31                                                             ` Peter Baumann
2007-10-25  7:57                                                               ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25  8:25                                                                 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-25 10:17                                                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-25 10:33                                                               ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25 12:09                                                                 ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-25 12:58                                                                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-25 13:24                                                                 ` Theodore Tso
2007-10-25 14:58                                                                   ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25 15:21                                                                     ` Theodore Tso
2007-10-25 17:05                                                                       ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25 18:33                                                                         ` Junio C Hamano
2007-10-25 20:18                                                                           ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-26  6:18                                                                             ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-26  7:53                                                                               ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25 18:02                                                                       ` best git practices, was Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinishedsummary continued Federico Mena Quintero
2007-10-25 18:04                                                                         ` Mike Hommey
2007-10-25 18:18                                                                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-25 18:23                                                                         ` Theodore Tso
2007-10-25 20:08                                                                         ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-26 20:01                                                                         ` David Kastrup
2007-10-25 16:06                                                       ` Federico Mena Quintero
2007-10-25 16:38                                                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-25 18:06                                                           ` Federico Mena Quintero
2007-10-25 18:16                                                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-25 20:19                                                             ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25 20:27                                                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-26  9:17                                                                 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-26  4:41                                                         ` [PATCH] Make rebase smarter Steven Walter
2007-10-26  7:42                                                           ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-26  9:57                                                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-26 21:02                                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2007-10-26 23:13                                                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-26 23:29                                                               ` Junio C Hamano
2007-10-24 21:54                                                   ` best git practices, was Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-24 22:17                                                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-25  8:07                                                       ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25 10:12                                                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-25 10:24                                                           ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25 11:39                                                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-25 12:46                                                               ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25 14:51                                                                 ` Karl Hasselström
2007-10-25 17:10                                                                   ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25  7:26                                                     ` Peter Baumann
2007-10-24 21:16                                               ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-24 20:13                                           ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-24 23:48                                         ` Jakub Narebski
2007-10-25  7:42                                           ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-25 10:07                                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-25 10:39                                               ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-10-25 16:16                                           ` Federico Mena Quintero
2007-10-23  7:24                               ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-22 18:06                           ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-10-22 13:17                       ` Wincent Colaiuta
2007-10-22 13:33                         ` David Symonds
2007-10-22 13:38                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-22 17:48                           ` Robin Rosenberg
2007-10-23 22:13                         ` Alex Riesen
2007-10-22 13:36                       ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2007-10-22 15:24                       ` best git practices, was Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summarycontinued Federico Mena Quintero
2007-10-24  2:06                       ` best git practices, was Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued Jakub Narebski
2007-10-24 10:29                         ` Karl Hasselström
2007-10-24 11:04                           ` Jakub Narebski
2007-10-24 11:31                             ` Karl Hasselström
2007-10-24 23:27                               ` Jakub Narebski
2007-10-25  6:10                                 ` Karl Hasselström
2007-10-24 13:15                             ` Catalin Marinas
2007-10-22 12:26                     ` Jakub Narebski
2007-10-22 13:45                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-10-22 14:29                       ` Andreas Ericsson
2007-10-22 14:53                     ` Federico Mena Quintero
2007-10-22 23:27                       ` Jakub Narebski
2007-10-22 22:53                   ` Steven Grimm
2007-10-21 22:12           ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-10-13  3:04   ` Shawn O. Pearce

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