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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>, Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
	<sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Varad Gautam <varad.gautam@suse.com>,
	Dario Faggioli <dfaggioli@suse.com>,
	Brijesh Singh <brijesh.singh@amd.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-coco@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv4 1/8] mm: Add support for unaccepted memory
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2022 12:11:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <93a7cfdf-02e6-6880-c563-76b01c9f41f5@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220405234343.74045-2-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>

On 4/5/22 16:43, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> Kernel only needs to accept memory once after boot, so during the boot
> and warm up phase there will be a lot of memory acceptance. After things
> are settled down the only price of the feature if couple of checks for
> PageUnaccepted() in allocate and free paths. The check refers a hot
> variable (that also encodes PageBuddy()), so it is cheap and not visible
> on profiles.

Let's also not sugar-coat this.  Page acceptance is hideously slow.
It's agonizingly slow.  To boot, it's done holding a global spinlock
with interrupts disabled (see patch 6/8).  At the very, very least, each
acceptance operation involves a couple of what are effectively ring
transitions, a 2MB memset(), and a bunch of cache flushing.

The system is going to be downright unusable during this time, right?

Sure, it's *temporary* and only happens once at boot.  But, it's going
to suck.

Am I over-stating this in any way?

The ACCEPT_MEMORY vmstat is good to have around.  Thanks for adding it.
 But, I think we should also write down some guidance like:

	If your TDX system seems as slow as snail after boot, look at
	the "accept_memory" counter in /proc/vmstat.  If it is
	incrementing, then TDX memory acceptance is likely to blame.

Do we need anything more discrete to tell users when acceptance is over?
 For instance, maybe they run something and it goes really slow, they
watch "accept_memory" until it stops.  They rejoice at their good
fortune!  Then, memory allocation starts falling over to a new node and
the agony beings anew.

I can think of dealing with this in two ways:

	cat /sys/.../unaccepted_pages_left

which just walks the bitmap and counts the amount of pages remaining. or
something like:

	echo 1 > /sys/devices/system/node/node0/make_the_pain_stop

Which will, well, make the pain stop on node0.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-04-08 19:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-05 23:43 [PATCHv4 0/8] mm, x86/cc: Implement support for unaccepted memory Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-05 23:43 ` [PATCHv4 1/8] mm: Add " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-08 18:55   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-09 15:54     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-11  6:38       ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-11 10:07         ` Mike Rapoport
2022-04-13 11:40           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-13 14:48             ` Mike Rapoport
2022-04-13 15:15               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-13 20:06                 ` Mike Rapoport
2022-04-11  8:47       ` David Hildenbrand
2022-04-08 19:04   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-04-08 19:11   ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2022-04-09 17:52     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-11  6:41       ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-11 15:55         ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-11 16:27           ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-11 18:55             ` Tom Lendacky
2022-04-12  8:15     ` David Hildenbrand
2022-04-12 16:08       ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-13 10:36         ` David Hildenbrand
2022-04-13 11:30           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-13 11:32             ` David Hildenbrand
2022-04-13 15:36             ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-13 16:07               ` David Hildenbrand
2022-04-13 16:13                 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-13 16:24               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-13 14:39           ` Mike Rapoport
2022-04-05 23:43 ` [PATCHv4 2/8] efi/x86: Get full memory map in allocate_e820() Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-13  9:59   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-13 11:45     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-05 23:43 ` [PATCHv4 3/8] efi/x86: Implement support for unaccepted memory Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-08 17:26   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-09 19:41     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-14 15:55     ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-15 22:24   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-18 15:55     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-18 16:38       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-18 20:24         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-18 21:01           ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-18 23:50             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-19  7:39               ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-19 15:30                 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-19 16:38                   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-19 19:23                   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-21 12:26                 ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-22  0:21                 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-22  9:30                   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-04-22 13:26                     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-05 23:43 ` [PATCHv4 4/8] x86/boot/compressed: Handle " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-08 17:57   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-09 20:20     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-11  6:49       ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-05 23:43 ` [PATCHv4 5/8] x86/mm: Reserve unaccepted memory bitmap Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-08 18:08   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-09 20:43     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-05 23:43 ` [PATCHv4 6/8] x86/mm: Provide helpers for unaccepted memory Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-08 18:15   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-08 19:21   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-13 16:08     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-05 23:43 ` [PATCHv4 7/8] x86/tdx: Unaccepted memory support Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-08 18:28   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-05 23:43 ` [PATCHv4 8/8] mm/vmstat: Add counter for memory accepting Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-12  8:18   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-04-08 17:02 ` [PATCHv4 0/8] mm, x86/cc: Implement support for unaccepted memory Dave Hansen
2022-04-09 23:44   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-04-21 12:29     ` Borislav Petkov

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