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From: Yang Shi <yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/8] mm: mmap: unmap large mapping by section
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 15:36:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <952dcae2-a73e-0726-3cc5-9b6a63b417b7@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180321212355.GR23100@dhcp22.suse.cz>



On 3/21/18 2:23 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Wed 21-03-18 10:16:41, Yang Shi wrote:
>>
>> On 3/21/18 9:50 AM, Yang Shi wrote:
>>>
>>> On 3/21/18 6:14 AM, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>>> On Wed 21-03-18 05:31:19, Yang Shi wrote:
>>>>> When running some mmap/munmap scalability tests with large memory (i.e.
>>>>>> 300GB), the below hung task issue may happen occasionally.
>>>>> INFO: task ps:14018 blocked for more than 120 seconds.
>>>>>          Tainted: G            E 4.9.79-009.ali3000.alios7.x86_64 #1
>>>>>    "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this
>>>>> message.
>>>>>    ps              D    0 14018      1 0x00000004
>>>>>     ffff885582f84000 ffff885e8682f000 ffff880972943000 ffff885ebf499bc0
>>>>>     ffff8828ee120000 ffffc900349bfca8 ffffffff817154d0 0000000000000040
>>>>>     00ffffff812f872a ffff885ebf499bc0 024000d000948300 ffff880972943000
>>>>>    Call Trace:
>>>>>     [<ffffffff817154d0>] ? __schedule+0x250/0x730
>>>>>     [<ffffffff817159e6>] schedule+0x36/0x80
>>>>>     [<ffffffff81718560>] rwsem_down_read_failed+0xf0/0x150
>>>>>     [<ffffffff81390a28>] call_rwsem_down_read_failed+0x18/0x30
>>>>>     [<ffffffff81717db0>] down_read+0x20/0x40
>>>>>     [<ffffffff812b9439>] proc_pid_cmdline_read+0xd9/0x4e0
>>>> Slightly off-topic:
>>>> Btw. this sucks as well. Do we really need to take mmap_sem here? Do any
>>>> of
>>>>      arg_start = mm->arg_start;
>>>>      arg_end = mm->arg_end;
>>>>      env_start = mm->env_start;
>>>>      env_end = mm->env_end;
>>>>
>>>> change after exec or while the pid is already visible in proc? If yes
>>>> maybe we can use a dedicated lock.
>> BTW, this is not the only place to acquire mmap_sem in
>> proc_pid_cmdline_read(), it calls access_remote_vm() which need acquire
>> mmap_sem too, so the mmap_sem scalability issue will be hit sooner or later.
> Ohh, absolutely. mmap_sem is unfortunatelly abused and it would be great
> to remove that. munmap should perform much better. How to do that safely

Yes, agree. We are on the same page.

> is a different question. I am not yet convinced that tearing down a vma
> in batches is safe. The vast majority of time is spent on tearing down

You can try my patches. I did full LTP test and running multiple kernel 
build in parallel. It survives.

> pages and that is quite easy to move out of the write lock. That would
> be an improvement already and it should be risk safe. If even that is
> not sufficient then using range locking should help a lot. There
> shouldn't be really any other address space operations within the range
> most of the time so this would be basically non-contended access.

It might depend on how the range is defined. Too big range may lead to 
surprisingly more contention, but too small range may bring in too much 
lock/unlock operations.

Thanks,
Yang

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-21 22:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-20 21:31 [RFC PATCH 0/8] Drop mmap_sem during unmapping large map Yang Shi
2018-03-20 21:31 ` Yang Shi
2018-03-20 21:31 ` [RFC PATCH 1/8] mm: mmap: unmap large mapping by section Yang Shi
2018-03-21 13:08   ` Michal Hocko
2018-03-21 16:31     ` Yang Shi
2018-03-21 17:29       ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-21 21:45         ` Yang Shi
2018-03-21 22:15           ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-21 22:40             ` Yang Shi
2018-03-21 22:46           ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-22 15:32             ` Laurent Dufour
2018-03-22 15:40               ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-22 15:54                 ` Laurent Dufour
2018-03-22 16:05                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-22 16:18                     ` Laurent Dufour
2018-03-22 16:46                       ` Yang Shi
2018-03-23 13:03                         ` Laurent Dufour
2018-03-23 13:03                           ` Laurent Dufour
2018-03-22 16:51                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-22 16:49                     ` Yang Shi
2018-03-22 17:34         ` Yang Shi
2018-03-22 18:48           ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-24 18:24         ` Jerome Glisse
2018-03-24 18:24           ` Jerome Glisse
2018-03-21 13:14   ` Michal Hocko
2018-03-21 16:50     ` Yang Shi
2018-03-21 17:16       ` Yang Shi
2018-03-21 21:23         ` Michal Hocko
2018-03-21 22:36           ` Yang Shi [this message]
2018-03-22  9:10             ` Michal Hocko
2018-03-22 16:06               ` Yang Shi
2018-03-22 16:12                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-03-22 16:13                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-22 16:28                   ` Laurent Dufour
2018-03-22 16:36                     ` David Laight
2018-03-20 21:31 ` [RFC PATCH 2/8] mm: mmap: pass atomic parameter to do_munmap() call sites Yang Shi
2018-03-20 21:31 ` [RFC PATCH 3/8] mm: mremap: pass atomic parameter to do_munmap() Yang Shi
2018-03-20 21:31 ` [RFC PATCH 4/8] mm: nommu: add " Yang Shi
2018-03-20 21:31 ` [RFC PATCH 5/8] ipc: shm: pass " Yang Shi
2018-03-20 21:31 ` [RFC PATCH 6/8] fs: proc/vmcore: " Yang Shi
2018-03-20 21:31 ` [RFC PATCH 7/8] x86: mpx: " Yang Shi
2018-03-20 22:35   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-03-21 16:53     ` Yang Shi
2018-03-20 21:31 ` [RFC PATCH 8/8] x86: vma: " Yang Shi

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