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To: Eduardo Habkost Cc: Markus Armbruster , Valeriy Vdovin , "qemu-devel@nongnu.org" , Marcel Apfelbaum , Eric Blake , Paolo Bonzini , Marcelo Tosatti , Richard Henderson , Laurent Vivier , kvm@vger.kernel.org, Denis Lunev , Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy References: <20210728125402.2496-1-valeriy.vdovin@virtuozzo.com> <87eeb59vwt.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> <20210810185644.iyqt3iao2qdqd5jk@habkost.net> <2191952f-6989-771a-1f0a-ece58262d141@redhat.com> From: Thomas Huth Message-ID: <97ce9800-ff69-46cd-b6ab-c7645ee10d2c@redhat.com> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 15:44:05 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.12.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: kvm@vger.kernel.org On 11/08/2021 15.40, Eduardo Habkost wrote: > On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 2:10 AM Thomas Huth wrote: >> >> On 10/08/2021 20.56, Eduardo Habkost wrote: >>> On Sat, Aug 07, 2021 at 04:22:42PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote: >>>> Is this intended to be a stable interface? Interfaces intended just for >>>> debugging usually aren't. >>> >>> I don't think we need to make it a stable interface, but I won't >>> mind if we declare it stable. >> >> If we don't feel 100% certain yet, it's maybe better to introduce this with >> a "x-" prefix first, isn't it? I.e. "x-query-x86-cpuid" ... then it's clear >> that this is only experimental/debugging/not-stable yet. Just my 0.02 €. > > That would be my expectation. Is this a documented policy? > According to docs/interop/qmp-spec.txt : Any command or member name beginning with "x-" is deemed experimental, and may be withdrawn or changed in an incompatible manner in a future release. 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[149.14.88.106]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e3sm13307995wro.15.2021.08.11.06.44.06 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 11 Aug 2021 06:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [PATCH v12] qapi: introduce 'query-x86-cpuid' QMP command. To: Eduardo Habkost References: <20210728125402.2496-1-valeriy.vdovin@virtuozzo.com> <87eeb59vwt.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org> <20210810185644.iyqt3iao2qdqd5jk@habkost.net> <2191952f-6989-771a-1f0a-ece58262d141@redhat.com> From: Thomas Huth Message-ID: <97ce9800-ff69-46cd-b6ab-c7645ee10d2c@redhat.com> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 15:44:05 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.12.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Authentication-Results: relay.mimecast.com; auth=pass smtp.auth=CUSA124A263 smtp.mailfrom=thuth@redhat.com X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=170.10.133.124; envelope-from=thuth@redhat.com; helo=us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com X-Spam_score_int: -34 X-Spam_score: -3.5 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.7, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Laurent Vivier , Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy , kvm@vger.kernel.org, Marcelo Tosatti , Richard Henderson , "qemu-devel@nongnu.org" , Markus Armbruster , Valeriy Vdovin , Denis Lunev , Paolo Bonzini , Eric Blake Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: "Qemu-devel" On 11/08/2021 15.40, Eduardo Habkost wrote: > On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 2:10 AM Thomas Huth wrote: >> >> On 10/08/2021 20.56, Eduardo Habkost wrote: >>> On Sat, Aug 07, 2021 at 04:22:42PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote: >>>> Is this intended to be a stable interface? Interfaces intended just for >>>> debugging usually aren't. >>> >>> I don't think we need to make it a stable interface, but I won't >>> mind if we declare it stable. >> >> If we don't feel 100% certain yet, it's maybe better to introduce this with >> a "x-" prefix first, isn't it? I.e. "x-query-x86-cpuid" ... then it's clear >> that this is only experimental/debugging/not-stable yet. Just my 0.02 €. > > That would be my expectation. Is this a documented policy? > According to docs/interop/qmp-spec.txt : Any command or member name beginning with "x-" is deemed experimental, and may be withdrawn or changed in an incompatible manner in a future release. Thomas