From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.2 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, NICE_REPLY_A,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B86C4338F for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2021 21:52:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5635660240 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2021 21:52:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S232589AbhHQVwd (ORCPT ); Tue, 17 Aug 2021 17:52:33 -0400 Received: from btbn.de ([136.243.74.85]:38230 "EHLO btbn.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S232564AbhHQVwd (ORCPT ); Tue, 17 Aug 2021 17:52:33 -0400 Received: from [authenticated] by btbn.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C9DEF343955; Tue, 17 Aug 2021 23:51:58 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rothenpieler.org; s=mail; t=1629237118; bh=wLW7blM5n2kW36fyMTYaD5wvUUW3O2T7OO/lcOi9dJg=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=MwJQDmGNPX6rBXLrjrlbq+dZs1HvMfrOpuIqX367MyabiAGBag8JkrUS8agALG1ta /xv8/KS2ZYqqAnEYoef2tGWxqgX9LO3EuKBznHimoIpAqKK4ZkqW8klTSzx1EE56Dt Uu87nsFpCRXry8KEZeLO3CBhMpvok1X11tKO1b8k/1L704cs+xhR9Js/UrEoRevByv QoUR7YC7SUNR4SmuJITE/nZBPd61OInYtKO9hhHdJMrMMJd22lmywePEhGqV0vEHT0 Tf30p1Gzgljm+63xQlRkuGaxVnsjXcIDXcn6SG2aZjoud8/I6SF0Q0c65nBQwXpKLf xNOzp8YV7lLmw== Subject: Re: Spurious instability with NFSoRDMA under moderate load To: Chuck Lever III Cc: Linux NFS Mailing List , Olga Kornievskaia , Dai Ngo References: <4da3b074-a6be-d83f-ccd4-b151557066aa@rothenpieler.org> <72ECF9E1-1F6E-44AF-850C-536BED898DDD@oracle.com> <9355de20-921c-69e0-e5a4-733b64e125e1@rothenpieler.org> <4BA2A532-9063-4893-AF53-E1DAB06095CC@oracle.com> <141fdf51-2aa1-6614-fe4e-96f168cbe6cf@rothenpieler.org> <99DFF0B0-FE0F-4416-B3F6-1F9535884F39@oracle.com> <64F9A492-44B9-4057-ABA5-C8202828A8DD@oracle.com> <1b8a24a9-5dba-3faf-8b0a-16e728a6051c@rothenpieler.org> <5DD80ADC-0A4B-4D95-8CF7-29096439DE9D@oracle.com> <0444ca5c-e8b6-1d80-d8a5-8469daa74970@rothenpieler.org> <3AF4F6CA-8B17-4AE9-82E2-21A2B9AA0774@oracle.com> <4caff277-8e53-3c75-70c1-8938b2a26933@rothenpieler.org> <7B44D7FD-9D0F-4A0D-ABE9-E295072D953F@oracle.com> From: Timo Rothenpieler Message-ID: <97fe445e-6c4f-b7cf-fa39-fd0c4222a89e@rothenpieler.org> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2021 23:51:57 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7B44D7FD-9D0F-4A0D-ABE9-E295072D953F@oracle.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms040601040403010605080000" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms040601040403010605080000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 17.08.2021 23:08, Chuck Lever III wrote: > I tried reproducing this using your 'xfs_io -fc "copy_range > testfile" testfile.copy' reproducer, but couldn't. >=20 > A network capture shows that the client tries CLONE first. The > server reports that's not supported, so the client tries COPY. > The COPY works, and the reply shows that the COPY was synchro- > nous. Thus there's no need for a callback, and I'm not tripping > over backchannel misbehavior. Make sure the testfile is of sufficient size. I'm not sure what the=20 threshold is, but if it's too small, it'll just do a synchronous copy=20 for me as well. I'm using a 50MB file in my tests. > The export I'm using is an xfs filesystem. Did you already > report the filesystem type you're testing against? I can't > find it in the thread. >=20 > If there's a way to force an offload-style COPY, let me know. >=20 > Oh. Also I looked at what might have been pulled into the > linux-5.12.y kernel between .12 and .19, and I don't see > anything that's especially relevant to either COPY_OFFLOAD > or backchannel. I'm observing this with both an ext4 and zfs filesystem. Can easily test xfs as well if desired. Are you testing this on a normal network, or with RDMA? With normal tcp, = I also can't observe this issue(it doesn't time out the backchannel in=20 the first place), it only happens in RDMA mode. 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