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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: Tiwei Bie <tiwei.bie@intel.com>, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, wexu@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH net-next v2 0/5] virtio: support packed ring
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 17:47:29 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <98d6bd4d-45e2-4207-e961-782f649e0139__305.537627036934$1536831944$gmane$org@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180913085919.GA42049@fbsd1.sh.intel.com>



On 2018年09月13日 16:59, Tiwei Bie wrote:
>> If what you say is true then we should take a careful look
>> and not supporting these generic things with packed layout.
>> Once we do support them it will be too late and we won't
>> be able to get performance back.
> I think it's a good point that we don't need to support
> everything in packed ring (especially these which would
> hurt the performance), as the packed ring aims at high
> performance. I'm also wondering about the features. Is
> there any possibility that we won't support the out of
> order processing (at least not by default) in packed ring?
> If I didn't miss anything, the need to support out of order
> processing in packed ring will make the data structure
> inside the driver not cache friendly which is similar to
> the case of the descriptor table in the split ring (the
> difference is that, it only happens in driver now).

Out of order is not the only user, DMA is another one. We don't have 
used ring(len), so we need to maintain buffer length somewhere even for 
in order device. But if it's not too late, I second for a OUT_OF_ORDER 
feature. Starting from in order can have much simpler code in driver.

Thanks

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-09-13  9:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 167+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-11  2:27 [PATCH net-next v2 0/5] virtio: support packed ring Tiwei Bie
2018-07-11  2:27 ` [virtio-dev] " Tiwei Bie
2018-07-11  2:27 ` Tiwei Bie
2018-07-11  2:27 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/5] virtio: add packed ring definitions Tiwei Bie
2018-07-11  2:27   ` [virtio-dev] " Tiwei Bie
2018-09-07 13:51   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-07 13:51     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-10  2:13     ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-10  2:13       ` [virtio-dev] " Tiwei Bie
2018-09-12 12:53       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-12 12:53       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-12 12:53         ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-10  2:13     ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-07 13:51   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-07-11  2:27 ` Tiwei Bie
2018-07-11  2:27 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/5] virtio_ring: support creating packed ring Tiwei Bie
2018-07-11  2:27   ` [virtio-dev] " Tiwei Bie
2018-09-07 14:03   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-07 14:03   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-07 14:03     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-10  2:28     ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-10  2:28       ` [virtio-dev] " Tiwei Bie
2018-09-12  7:51       ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-12  7:51       ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-12  7:51         ` [virtio-dev] " Tiwei Bie
2018-09-12 16:12         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-12 16:12         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-12 16:12           ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-12 12:45       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-12 12:45         ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-12 12:45       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-10  2:28     ` Tiwei Bie
2018-07-11  2:27 ` Tiwei Bie
2018-07-11  2:27 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/5] virtio_ring: add packed ring support Tiwei Bie
2018-07-11  2:27   ` [virtio-dev] " Tiwei Bie
2018-09-07 13:49   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-07 13:49   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-07 13:49     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-10  2:03     ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-10  2:03       ` [virtio-dev] " Tiwei Bie
2018-09-10  2:03       ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-12 16:22   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-12 16:22     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-12 16:22   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-07 17:48   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-07 17:48     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-08  1:38     ` Tiwei Bie
2018-11-08  1:38     ` Tiwei Bie
2018-11-08  1:38       ` [virtio-dev] " Tiwei Bie
2018-11-08  8:18       ` Jason Wang
2018-11-08  8:18       ` Jason Wang
2018-11-08  8:18         ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2018-11-08 11:51         ` Tiwei Bie
2018-11-08 11:51           ` [virtio-dev] " Tiwei Bie
2018-11-08 15:56           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-08 15:56           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-08 15:56             ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-09  1:50             ` Tiwei Bie
2018-11-09  1:50             ` Tiwei Bie
2018-11-09  1:50               ` [virtio-dev] " Tiwei Bie
2018-11-09  2:30             ` Jason Wang
2018-11-09  2:30             ` Jason Wang
2018-11-09  2:30               ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2018-11-09  4:00               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-09  4:00                 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-09 10:05                 ` Jason Wang
2018-11-09 10:05                   ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2018-11-09 10:05                 ` Jason Wang
2018-11-09  4:00               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-08 11:51         ` Tiwei Bie
2018-11-08 14:14         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-08 14:14         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-08 14:14           ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-09  2:25           ` Jason Wang
2018-11-09  2:25             ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2018-11-09  3:58             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-09  3:58             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-09  3:58               ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-09 10:04               ` Jason Wang
2018-11-09 10:04                 ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2018-11-09 10:04                 ` Jason Wang
2018-11-09  2:25           ` Jason Wang
2018-11-07 17:48   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-07-11  2:27 ` Tiwei Bie
2018-07-11  2:27 ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/5] virtio_ring: add event idx support in packed ring Tiwei Bie
2018-07-11  2:27   ` [virtio-dev] " Tiwei Bie
2018-09-07 14:10   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-07 14:10   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-07 14:10     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-10  2:35     ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-10  2:35     ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-10  2:35       ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-10  2:35       ` Tiwei Bie
2018-07-11  2:27 ` Tiwei Bie
2018-07-11  2:27 ` [PATCH net-next v2 5/5] virtio_ring: enable " Tiwei Bie
2018-07-11  2:27 ` Tiwei Bie
2018-07-11  2:27   ` [virtio-dev] " Tiwei Bie
2018-07-11  2:52 ` [PATCH net-next v2 0/5] virtio: support " Jason Wang
2018-07-11  2:52 ` Jason Wang
2018-07-11  2:52   ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2018-07-12 21:44 ` David Miller
2018-07-12 21:44   ` David Miller
2018-07-13  0:52   ` Jason Wang
2018-07-13  0:52   ` Jason Wang
2018-07-13  0:52     ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2018-07-13  3:26   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-07-13  3:26     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-07-13  3:26   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-08-27 14:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-08-27 14:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-08-27 14:00   ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-08-28  5:51   ` Jens Freimann
2018-09-07  1:22   ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-07  1:22   ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-07  1:22     ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-07  1:22     ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-07 13:00     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-07 13:00     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-07 13:00       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-07 13:00       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-10  3:00       ` [virtio-dev] " Tiwei Bie
2018-09-10  3:00       ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-10  3:00         ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-10  3:00         ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-10  3:33         ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2018-09-10  3:33           ` Jason Wang
2018-09-11  5:37           ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-11  5:37           ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-11  5:37             ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-11  5:37             ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-12 16:16             ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-12 16:16               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-13  8:59               ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-13  8:59                 ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-13  8:59                 ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-13  9:47                 ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2018-09-13  9:47                   ` Jason Wang
2018-09-13  9:47                   ` Jason Wang
2018-10-10 14:36                   ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-10-10 14:36                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-10-11 12:12                     ` Tiwei Bie
2018-10-11 12:12                     ` Tiwei Bie
2018-10-11 12:12                       ` Tiwei Bie
2018-10-11 12:12                       ` Tiwei Bie
2018-10-11 13:48                       ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-10-11 13:48                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-10-11 13:48                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-10-11 14:13                         ` Tiwei Bie
2018-10-11 14:13                           ` Tiwei Bie
2018-10-11 14:17                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-10-11 14:17                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-10-11 14:17                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-10-11 14:34                             ` [virtio-dev] " Tiwei Bie
2018-10-11 14:34                               ` Tiwei Bie
2018-10-11 14:34                               ` Tiwei Bie
2018-10-11 14:34                             ` [virtio-dev] " Tiwei Bie
2018-10-11 14:17                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-10-11 14:13                         ` Tiwei Bie
2018-10-10 14:36                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-13  9:47                 ` Jason Wang [this message]
2018-09-13  8:59               ` Tiwei Bie
2018-09-12 16:16             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-10  3:33         ` Jason Wang
2018-09-12 13:06         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-12 13:06         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-12 13:06           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-09-12 13:06           ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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