From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Alexander Graf Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM call minutes for Feb 8 Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 20:30:02 +0100 Message-ID: <9DB5B167-5BAD-4FAE-94AD-898AE7885AFA@suse.de> References: <20110208155557.GM6198@x200.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Cc: Chris Wright , "qemu-devel@nongnu.org" , "kvm@vger.kernel.org" To: Markus Armbruster Return-path: Received: from cantor2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:53061 "EHLO mx2.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754742Ab1BHTby convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Tue, 8 Feb 2011 14:31:54 -0500 In-Reply-To: Sender: kvm-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On 08.02.2011, at 18:13, Markus Armbruster wrote: > Chris Wright writes: > > [...] >> - qdev/vmstate both examples of partially completed work that need more >> attention > > As far as qdev's concerned, I can see two kinds of to-dos: > > * Further develop qdev so that more of the machine init code can becomes > qdev declarations. Specific ideas welcome. Patches even more, as > always. > > * Convert the remaining devices. They are typically used only with > oddball machines, which makes the conversion hard to test for anyone > who's not already using them. > > I've said this before: at some point in time (sooner rather than > later, if you ask me), we need to shoot the stragglers. I'm pretty > optimistic that any victims worth keeping will receive timely > attention then. This is the wrong approach. If you were to change the syntax of kmalloc in Linux and only converted mainstream x86 users, leaving the rest for the subsystem maintainers to figure out, your patch would simply get rejected. Asking for help on conversions is one thing, forcing work on others another. I'd gladly give anyone access to 'oddball' machine images. Alex >