From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932447AbVLMS7V (ORCPT ); Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:59:21 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932608AbVLMS7V (ORCPT ); Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:59:21 -0500 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.201]:1971 "EHLO zproxy.gmail.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932447AbVLMS7U convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:59:20 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=axaMxuOwdtG5vcZ5sWazmiqVc1cHYVvld25iRRaF+QqMj9o04fHCd4Rj0B8og3fNzMwfkHk3qOo735MFgvK1krDz+2j+jOruSMBX2JQKHepKf9mTsyDgFdeIpvQolTAjLjd4bpj8VnJSXbx9okZd6DVeqxU9tQOLQilkM4yG+CU= Message-ID: <9a8748490512131059m54cc56faueaab6ddf0f18520e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:59:00 +0100 From: Jesper Juhl To: Geert Uytterhoeven Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] don't allow users to set CONFIG_BROKEN=y Cc: Adrian Bunk , Simon Richter , Linux Kernel Development , tony.luck@intel.com, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, matthew@wil.cx, grundler@parisc-linux.org, parisc-linux@parisc-linux.org, Paul Mackerras , Linux/PPC Development , lethal@linux-sh.org, kkojima@rr.iij4u.or.jp, dwmw2@infradead.org, linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Disposition: inline References: <20051211185212.GQ23349@stusta.de> <20051211192109.GA22537@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <20051211193118.GR23349@stusta.de> <20051211194437.GB22537@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <20051213001028.GS23349@stusta.de> <439ECDCC.80707@hogyros.de> <20051213140001.GG23349@stusta.de> <20051213173112.GA24094@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <20051213180551.GN23349@stusta.de> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 12/13/05, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > Do not allow people to create configurations with CONFIG_BROKEN=y. > > > > The sole reason for CONFIG_BROKEN=y would be if you are working on > > fixing a broken driver, but in this case editing the Kconfig file is > > trivial. > > > > Never ever should a user enable CONFIG_BROKEN. > ^^^^ > OK, a user, not an expert. Let's assume users don't enable EXPERIMENTAL. > > But I'd like to at least have the possibility to enable broken drivers, even if > it's just for compile regression tests. > I agree, and it's very convenient to be able to enable it in menuconfig etc. Perhaps CONFIG_BROKEN should just be moved to kernel hacking instead...? -- Jesper Juhl Don't top-post http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/T/top-post.html Plain text mails only, please http://www.expita.com/nomime.html From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33BA9688C6 for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 05:59:20 +1100 (EST) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j2so1813437nzf for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:59:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9a8748490512131059m54cc56faueaab6ddf0f18520e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:59:00 +0100 From: Jesper Juhl To: Geert Uytterhoeven In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 References: <20051211185212.GQ23349@stusta.de> <20051211192109.GA22537@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <20051211193118.GR23349@stusta.de> <20051211194437.GB22537@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <20051213001028.GS23349@stusta.de> <439ECDCC.80707@hogyros.de> <20051213140001.GG23349@stusta.de> <20051213173112.GA24094@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <20051213180551.GN23349@stusta.de> Cc: tony.luck@intel.com, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, grundler@parisc-linux.org, matthew@wil.cx, Linux Kernel Development , Adrian Bunk , Linux/PPC Development , lethal@linux-sh.org, linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, dwmw2@infradead.org, kkojima@rr.iij4u.or.jp, parisc-linux@parisc-linux.org Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] don't allow users to set CONFIG_BROKEN=y List-Id: Linux on PowerPC Developers Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On 12/13/05, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > Do not allow people to create configurations with CONFIG_BROKEN=3Dy. > > > > The sole reason for CONFIG_BROKEN=3Dy would be if you are working on > > fixing a broken driver, but in this case editing the Kconfig file is > > trivial. > > > > Never ever should a user enable CONFIG_BROKEN. > ^^^^ > OK, a user, not an expert. Let's assume users don't enable EXPERIMENTAL. > > But I'd like to at least have the possibility to enable broken drivers, e= ven if > it's just for compile regression tests. > I agree, and it's very convenient to be able to enable it in menuconfig etc. Perhaps CONFIG_BROKEN should just be moved to kernel hacking instead...? -- Jesper Juhl Don't top-post http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/T/top-post.html Plain text mails only, please http://www.expita.com/nomime.html From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.193]) by canuck.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54 #1 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1EmFMv-0007Tt-Ey for linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:59:28 -0500 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 67so198824wri for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:59:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9a8748490512131059m54cc56faueaab6ddf0f18520e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:59:00 +0100 From: Jesper Juhl To: Geert Uytterhoeven In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20051211185212.GQ23349@stusta.de> <20051211192109.GA22537@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <20051211193118.GR23349@stusta.de> <20051211194437.GB22537@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <20051213001028.GS23349@stusta.de> <439ECDCC.80707@hogyros.de> <20051213140001.GG23349@stusta.de> <20051213173112.GA24094@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <20051213180551.GN23349@stusta.de> Cc: tony.luck@intel.com, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, grundler@parisc-linux.org, matthew@wil.cx, Linux Kernel Development , Adrian Bunk , Linux/PPC Development , lethal@linux-sh.org, Paul Mackerras , linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, Simon Richter , dwmw2@infradead.org, kkojima@rr.iij4u.or.jp, parisc-linux@parisc-linux.org Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] don't allow users to set CONFIG_BROKEN=y List-Id: Linux MTD discussion mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On 12/13/05, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > Do not allow people to create configurations with CONFIG_BROKEN=3Dy. > > > > The sole reason for CONFIG_BROKEN=3Dy would be if you are working on > > fixing a broken driver, but in this case editing the Kconfig file is > > trivial. > > > > Never ever should a user enable CONFIG_BROKEN. > ^^^^ > OK, a user, not an expert. Let's assume users don't enable EXPERIMENTAL. > > But I'd like to at least have the possibility to enable broken drivers, e= ven if > it's just for compile regression tests. > I agree, and it's very convenient to be able to enable it in menuconfig etc. Perhaps CONFIG_BROKEN should just be moved to kernel hacking instead...? -- Jesper Juhl Don't top-post http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/T/top-post.html Plain text mails only, please http://www.expita.com/nomime.html From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jesper Juhl Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:59:00 +0000 Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] don't allow users to set CONFIG_BROKEN=y Message-Id: <9a8748490512131059m54cc56faueaab6ddf0f18520e@mail.gmail.com> List-Id: References: <20051211185212.GQ23349@stusta.de> <20051211192109.GA22537@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <20051211193118.GR23349@stusta.de> <20051211194437.GB22537@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <20051213001028.GS23349@stusta.de> <439ECDCC.80707@hogyros.de> <20051213140001.GG23349@stusta.de> <20051213173112.GA24094@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <20051213180551.GN23349@stusta.de> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Geert Uytterhoeven Cc: Adrian Bunk , Simon Richter , Linux Kernel Development , tony.luck@intel.com, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, matthew@wil.cx, grundler@parisc-linux.org, parisc-linux@parisc-linux.org, Paul Mackerras , Linux/PPC Development , lethal@linux-sh.org, kkojima@rr.iij4u.or.jp, dwmw2@infradead.org, linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org On 12/13/05, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > Do not allow people to create configurations with CONFIG_BROKEN=y. > > > > The sole reason for CONFIG_BROKEN=y would be if you are working on > > fixing a broken driver, but in this case editing the Kconfig file is > > trivial. > > > > Never ever should a user enable CONFIG_BROKEN. > ^^^^ > OK, a user, not an expert. Let's assume users don't enable EXPERIMENTAL. > > But I'd like to at least have the possibility to enable broken drivers, even if > it's just for compile regression tests. > I agree, and it's very convenient to be able to enable it in menuconfig etc. Perhaps CONFIG_BROKEN should just be moved to kernel hacking instead...? -- Jesper Juhl Don't top-post http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/T/top-post.html Plain text mails only, please http://www.expita.com/nomime.html