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From: "Jin, Yao" <yao.jin@linux.intel.com>
To: robert@ocallahan.org, Kyle Huey <me@kylehuey.com>
Cc: acme@kernel.org, jolsa@kernel.org,
	"Peter Zijlstra (Intel)" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	open list <Linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Vince Weaver <vincent.weaver@maine.edu>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	ak@linux.intel.com, kan.liang@intel.com, yao.jin@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/2] perf: Drop leaked kernel samples
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 08:50:11 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9b3259e8-1d07-adb1-a57c-8b276c133aa6@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOp6jLadgwdiW+1BNFFhNSBD-i1ACju4PeuozxvD26Mrekwd9w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

This patch raised many questions, I was prepared. :)

I'd like to try another proposal that it adds a special flag in the 
returned perf_sample_data to indicate the perf binary that this sample 
is a leaked sample.

For example, create a new PERF_SAMPLE_RETURN_LEAKAGE in 
perf_event_sample_format.

In perf_prepare_sample(),

if (event->attr.exclude_kernel && !user_mode(regs))
	data->type |= PERF_SAMPLE_RETURN_LEAKAGE;

Now all the samples are kept and the leaked kernel samples are tagged 
with PERF_SAMPLE_RETURN_LEAKAGE.

In perf binary, it filters out the samples with 
PERF_SAMPLE_RETURN_LEAKAGE. It needs perf binary modification but rr 
doesn't need to be changed.

I don't 0-stuffing some fields because:

1. Keeping the skid info should allow us to look at that if we have 
interesting later.

2. Not sure if 0-stuffing some fields has potential conflicts with some 
applications.

Is this proposal reasonable?

Thanks
Jin Yao

On 6/16/2018 1:34 AM, Robert O'Callahan wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 10:16 AM, Kyle Huey <me@kylehuey.com> wrote:
>>
>> If you want a sysctl for your own reasons that's fine. But we don't
>> want a sysctl. We want to work without any further configuration.
> 
> Also toggling a sysctl would require root privileges, but rr does not
> currently need to run as root. Thus rr users would have to either
> permanently change their system configuration (and every extra
> configuration step is a pain), or run rr as root so rr can toggle the
> sysctl itself. Running rr as root is highly undesirable.
> 
> Rob
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-16  0:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-15 10:03 [PATCH v1 0/2] perf: Drop leaked kernel samples Jin Yao
2018-06-15  3:35 ` Kyle Huey
2018-06-15  5:11   ` Jin, Yao
2018-06-15 17:16     ` Kyle Huey
2018-06-15 17:34       ` Robert O'Callahan
2018-06-16  0:50         ` Jin, Yao [this message]
2018-06-16  0:56           ` Kyle Huey
2018-06-16  1:18             ` Jin, Yao
2018-06-15  7:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-15  8:01   ` Jin, Yao
2018-06-15  8:12     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-15  8:24       ` Jin, Yao
2018-06-15 16:54       ` Stephane Eranian
2018-06-15 10:03 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] perf/core: Use sysctl to turn on/off dropping " Jin Yao
2018-06-15  5:59   ` Stephane Eranian
2018-06-15  7:15     ` Jin, Yao
2018-06-19 16:50       ` Stephane Eranian
2018-06-15  6:02   ` Stephane Eranian
2018-06-15  8:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-15 13:31       ` Liang, Kan
2018-06-18 10:41         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-15 11:36   ` Mark Rutland
2018-06-16  1:27     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-06-18 10:51       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-18  6:55     ` Jin, Yao
2018-06-18 10:45       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-19  1:39         ` Jin, Yao
2018-06-19  6:01           ` Mark Rutland
2018-06-15 10:03 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] perf Documentation: Introduce the sysctl perf_allow_sample_leakage Jin Yao

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