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From: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, stefanha@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	michael.roth@amd.com, den@openvz.org, libvir-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] trace: inroduce qmp: trace namespace
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2021 18:22:32 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9b6f4ade-7be4-6dd0-7b14-950de92d2cc5@virtuozzo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87czoa8nul.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org>

12.10.2021 14:49, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com> writes:
> 
>> Hi all!
>>
>> We have handle_qmp_command and qmp_command_repond trace points to trace
>> qmp commands. They are very useful to debug problems involving
>> management tools like libvirt.
>>
>> But tracing all qmp commands is too much.
>>
>> Here I suggest a kind of tracing namespace. Formally this series adds a
>> trace points called qmp:<some-command> for every command, which may be
>> enabled in separate like
>>
>>    --trace qmp:drive-backup
>>
>> or by pattern like
>>
>>    --trace qmp:block-job-*
>>
>> or similarly with help of qmp command trace-event-set-state.
>>
>> This also allows to enable tracing of some qmp commands permanently
>>   (by downstream patch or in libvirt xml). For example, I'm going to
>> enable tracing of block job comamnds and blockdev-* commands in
>> Virtuozzo. Qemu logs are often too empty (for example, in comparison
>> with Libvirt), logging block jobs is not too much but will be very
>> helpful.
> 
> What exactly is traced?  Peeking at PATCH 5... looks like it's input
> that makes it to qmp_dispatch() and command responses, but not events.
> 
> Fine print on "input that makes it to qmp_dispatch()":
> 
> * You trace right before we execute the command, not when we receive,
>    parse and enqueue input.
> 
> * Corollary: input with certain errors is not traced.
> 
> * You don't trace the input text, you trace the unparsed parse tree.
> 
> All fine, I presume.
> 
> Existing tracepoints in monitor/qmp.c, and what information they send
> (inessential bits omitted for clarity):
> 
> * handle_qmp_command
> 
>    Handling a QMP command: unparsed parse tree
> 
>    Fine print, safe to ignore:
> 
>    - Out-of-band commands will be executed right away, in-band commands
>      will be queued.  Tracepoints monitor_qmp_in_band_enqueue and
>      monitor_qmp_in_band_dequeue provide insight into that.
> 
>    - This also receives and queues parse errors, without tracing them.
>      Tracepoint monitor_qmp_err_in_band traces them as they are dequeued.
> 
> * monitor_qmp_cmd_in_band
> 
>    About to execute in-band command: command ID, if any
> 
> * monitor_qmp_cmd_out_of_band
> 
>    About to execute out-of-band command: command ID, if any
> 
> * monitor_qmp_respond
> 
>    About to send command response or event: QObject
> 
> For input, --trace qmp:* is like --trace handle_qmp_command, except it
> traces late rather than early.
> 
> For output, --trace qmp:* is like --trace monitor_qmp_respond less
> events.
> 
> The main improvement over existing tracepoints seems to be the ability
> to filter on command names.
> 
> To get that, you overload the @name argument of QMP command
> trace-event-set-state.  In addition to the documented meaning "Event
> name pattern", it also has an alternate, undocumented meaning "QMP
> command name pattern".  The "undocumented" part is easy enough to fix.
> However, QMP heavily frowns on argument values that need to be parsed.

Still, pattern is parsed anyway, as pattern. But yes, this patch adds
rather specific and tricky logic, which a lot more than just a pattern
to search through the list.

Another possible way is to update QAPI code generator to insert a personal
trace point for each qmp command.. That seems more complicated to implement,
but I can try.

> But before we discuss this in depth, we should decide whether we want
> the filtering feature.
> 
> Management applications can enable and disable tracing as needed, but
> doing it all in QEMU might be more convenient or robust.
> 
> Libvirt logs all QMP traffic.

I am not sure.. At lest in Vz7 (based on RH7) it doesn't.. Is something changed in new versions?

For example, I run a migration by virsh. In libvirtd.log I see migration events, but don't see the "migrate" command itself, neither migrate-set-parameters / migrate-set-capabilities..

So, I never could rely on libvirt logs in this area, and we usually use Qemu tracing to debug QMP traffic.

Also, Libvirt is not the only source of QMP traffic.. In Vz7 backup is done separately. I do backup of VM. In vm log I see drive-backup trace point. In Libvirt I see only "new connection, client: /usr/libexec/vz_backup_client <cmdline follows>"..

>  I doubt it'll make use of your filtering
> feature.  Cc'ing libvir-list just in case.
> 
> Another way to log all traffic is to route it through socat -x or
> similar.
> 
> Opinions?
> 

The benefit of Qemu tracepoints, is that you can enable them independently of any environment/management tool.

-- 
Best regards,
Vladimir


  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-14 15:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-23 19:54 [PATCH 0/5] trace: inroduce qmp: trace namespace Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-09-23 19:54 ` [PATCH 1/5] trace/control: introduce trace_opt_parse_opts() Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-09-23 19:54 ` [PATCH 2/5] qapi/qmp: QmpCommand: add .tracing field and API Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-09-23 19:54 ` [PATCH 3/5] monitor: add qmp tracing API for qmp_commands Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-09-23 19:54 ` [PATCH 4/5] util/qemu-option: make qemu_opt_del_all() function public Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-09-23 19:54 ` [PATCH 5/5] trace: add qmp trace event namespace Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-10-12 11:49 ` [PATCH 0/5] trace: inroduce qmp: trace namespace Markus Armbruster
2021-10-14 15:22   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy [this message]
2021-10-25 12:28     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2021-10-26 10:28       ` Markus Armbruster

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