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From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: Naresh Solanki <naresh.solanki@9elements.com>
Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, Jean Delvare <jdelvare@suse.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Roland Stigge <stigge@antcom.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org,
	Patrick Rudolph <patrick.rudolph@9elements.com>,
	Marcello Sylvester Bauer <sylv@sylv.io>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: hwmon: Add binding for max6639
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 07:22:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9cdb6849-9dbb-7b5d-7710-55846284fc43@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABqG17hprsbHkDnvuXkQaaJdbuNgkuZD_G8L7M9HX=w5bYo8rQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/5/22 23:30, Naresh Solanki wrote:
> Thanks Guenter, to summarize below properties that can be configured
> based on input from
> fan datasheet:
> pwm controlled fan:
> 1.  max-rpm : Defines maximum rpm the fan supports
> 2.  tach-pulse/pulse-per-revolution( also referred as prescale) :
> Determines the number of
>   pulses received from the sensor/tach pin of fan per revolution.

There are two different parameters: pulse-per-revolution is the number
of pulses per revolution from the fan. Then there is a chip internal
divider, used to ensure that the chip fan counter does not exceed
its limits. Both are needed and orthogonal.

 From the max6650 description:

- maxim,fan-prescale  : Pre-scaling value, as per datasheet [1]. Lower values
                         allow more fine-grained control of slower fans.
                         Valid: 1, 2, 4, 8, 16.

This has nothing to do with pulse-per-revolution (there are no fans
with 16 pulses per revolution). The range for pulse-per-revolution
is typically 1..4.

Also see /sys/class/hwmon/hwmonX/fanY_pulses and /sys/class/hwmon/hwmonX/fanY_div
in Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-class-hwmon                                                                                                                                                            <216,37>-46 24%.

> 3.  rpm-init (also ref. as fan-target-rpm): Determines the fan rpm
> driver needs to configure
> during probe.

This has nothing to do with an "init" value. It is the fan target rpm.
Also see /sys/class/hwmon/hwmonX/fanY_target.

> 4. pwm-input-polarity(normal or inverse) : Specifies fan pwm input
> polarity as specified in
>   fan datasheet. a fan controller driver can use this data to configure
> pwm output polarity

This has nothing to do with fan requirements. It is the output polarity
from the chip, period. There can be an inverter between pwm output and the
fan input, which is the most likely reason why the output has to be inverted.

> accordingly during driver probe.
> 
> For a DC output controlled fan, voltage across fan is controlled to control rpm.
> Below is what I can think of:
> 5. voltage-range : Specifies valid voltage range for rpm control
> example for 3V to 5V range:
>       voltage-range=<3000 5000>;

I never heard about that option. Usually fan controllers convert the provided
or calculated pwm value into a voltage if DC mode is configured. What may be
needed is the fan supply voltage, which can be provided by a regulator.

What is also needed is a means to switch the fan controller between
DC mode and PWM mode (matching /sys/class/hwmon/hwmonX/pwmY_mode).

I would also expect the ability to set the pwm frequency (matching
/sys/class/hwmon/hwmonX/pwmY_freq).

Thanks,
Guenter

> 
> Above mentioned properties are within the scope of fan.
> Fan controllers like max6639/max6650 etc can have additional
> properties specific to the
> feather supported by the chip.
> 
> Let me know if I can go ahead with this.
> 
> Thanks,
> Naresh Solanki
> 
> Regards,
> Naresh Solanki
> 
> 
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> 
> On Thu, 6 Oct 2022 at 00:10, Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net> wrote:
>>
>> On 9/21/22 23:34, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>> On 22/09/2022 07:07, Naresh Solanki wrote:
>>>> From: Marcello Sylvester Bauer <sylv@sylv.io>
>>>>
>>>> Add Devicetree binding documentation for Maxim MAX6639 temperature
>>>> monitor with PWM fan-speed controller.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Marcello Sylvester Bauer <sylv@sylv.io>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Naresh Solanki <Naresh.Solanki@9elements.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>    .../bindings/hwmon/maxim,max6639.yaml         | 112 ++++++++++++++++++
>>>>    1 file changed, 112 insertions(+)
>>>>    create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/hwmon/maxim,max6639.yaml
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/hwmon/maxim,max6639.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/hwmon/maxim,max6639.yaml
>>>> new file mode 100644
>>>> index 000000000000..c845fb989af2
>>>> --- /dev/null
>>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/hwmon/maxim,max6639.yaml
>>>> @@ -0,0 +1,112 @@
>>>> +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR BSD-2-Clause)
>>>> +%YAML 1.2
>>>> +---
>>>> +
>>>> +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/hwmon/maxim,max6639.yaml#
>>>> +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
>>>> +
>>>> +title: Maxim max6639
>>>> +
>>>> +maintainers:
>>>> +  - Roland Stigge <stigge@antcom.de>
>>>
>>> Ack from Roland is needed here.
>>>
>>>> +
>>>> +description: |
>>>> +  The MAX6639 is a 2-channel temperature monitor with dual, automatic, PWM
>>>> +  fan-speed controller.  It monitors its own temperature and one external
>>>> +  diode-connected transistor or the temperatures of two external diode-connected
>>>> +  transistors, typically available in CPUs, FPGAs, or GPUs.
>>>> +
>>>> +  Datasheets:
>>>> +    https://datasheets.maximintegrated.com/en/ds/MAX6639-MAX6639F.pdf
>>>> +
>>>> +properties:
>>>> +  compatible:
>>>> +    enum:
>>>> +      - maxim,max6639
>>>> +
>>>> +  reg:
>>>> +    maxItems: 1
>>>> +
>>>> +  '#address-cells':
>>>> +    const: 1
>>>> +
>>>> +  '#size-cells':
>>>> +    const: 0
>>>> +
>>>> +required:
>>>> +  - compatible
>>>> +  - reg
>>>> +  - "fan@0"
>>>> +  - "fan@1"
>>>> +
>>>> +additionalProperties: false
>>>> +
>>>> +patternProperties:
>>>
>>> This goes after properties.
>>>
>>>> +  "^fan@[0-1]$":
>>>> +    type: object
>>>> +    description: |
>>>> +      Represents the two fans and their specific configuration.
>>>> +
>>>> +    properties:
>>>> +      reg:
>>>> +        description: |
>>>> +          The fan number.
>>>> +        items:
>>>
>>> Skip items.
>>>
>>>> +          minimum: 0
>>>> +          maximum: 1
>>>> +
>>>> +      pwm-polarity:
>>>
>>> Why is this property of fan, not of PWM source?
>>>
>>
>> The chip provides pwm output to the fan. That typical for fan
>> controller chips. Typically they also have options to configure
>> the pwm frequency and either pwm or DC output (max6639 does not
>> have the latter option).
>>
>> Guenter


  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-06 14:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-22  5:07 [PATCH 0/2] Add max6639 regulator and devicetree support Naresh Solanki
2022-09-22  5:07 ` [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: hwmon: Add binding for max6639 Naresh Solanki
2022-09-22  6:34   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-10-05 18:40     ` Guenter Roeck
2022-10-06  6:30       ` Naresh Solanki
2022-10-06 14:22         ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2022-09-23 11:09   ` Patrick Rudolph
2022-09-29 19:32   ` Rob Herring
2022-10-05 13:16     ` Naresh Solanki
2022-10-05 15:45       ` Guenter Roeck
2022-09-22  5:07 ` [PATCH 2/2] hwmon: (max6639) Change from pdata to dt configuration Naresh Solanki
2022-09-23 11:06   ` Patrick Rudolph
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-04-18 11:32 [PATCH 1/2] dt-bindings: hwmon: Add binding for max6639 Naresh Solanki
2023-04-18 16:17 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-04-19  9:00   ` Naresh Solanki
2023-04-19  9:04     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-04-19  9:15       ` Naresh Solanki
2022-07-07 16:12 Naresh Solanki
2022-07-22 15:13 ` Guenter Roeck

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