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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: stefanha@redhat.com, virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org,
	eperezma@redhat.com, sgarzare@redhat.com
Subject: [virtio-comment] Re: [PATCH RFC] virtio: introduce VIRTIO_F_DEVICE_STOP
Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 15:26:21 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9f8ddb4d-f00a-647d-2784-e4d7f8b39699@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210505090731-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>


在 2021/5/5 下午9:16, Michael S. Tsirkin 写道:
> On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 12:23:02PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>> This patch introduces a new status bit DEVICE_STOPPED. This will be
>> used by the driver to stop and resume a device. The main user will be
>> live migration support for virtio device.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
> I have been thinking about this whole approach.
>
> While yes it's possible to have the hypervisor poke
> at the device while device is not reset, e.g. by
> blocking guest access to device, while device can
> still DMA into guest memory, this is at least unusual
> and seems somewhat fragile.


So in the context of stop, I wonder if we can just forbid the DMA in 
this case?


>
> I think normally live migration would belong in a PF as opposed to the VF.
>
> As such, how about for starters we prototype this
> as part of a vendor specific capability of a PF?


Just to make sure I understand the proposal. Except for the differnt 
control path, I don't see any other differences:

Consider we use vendor specific capability, we still need to define the 
semantics like the VIRTIO_F_DEVICE_STOP in this case. E.g as you said, 
quiescence the DMA and other stuffs.


> This will also show-case how to add vendor specific capabilities
> to devices.
>
>
> Longer term it would be nice to come up with all kind of PF
> related functionality in the spec too, but I think that should
> be part of a more comprehensive/extensible approach
> since it's not limited to live migration concerns.
> For example the way qemu handles control vq of a nic
> in software creates problems, couldn't we inject
> the relevant commands through PF somehow?


Yes, as we discussed in the past, I plan to send a RFC to introduce the 
admin virtqueue for PF. It could be used for such extensions.

Thanks


>
>
>> ---
>>   content.tex | 26 ++++++++++++++++++++++++--
>>   1 file changed, 24 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/content.tex b/content.tex
>> index 61eab41..4392b60 100644
>> --- a/content.tex
>> +++ b/content.tex
>> @@ -47,6 +47,9 @@ \section{\field{Device Status} Field}\label{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virtio Dev
>>   \item[DRIVER_OK (4)] Indicates that the driver is set up and ready to
>>     drive the device.
>>   
>> +\item[DEVICE_STOPPED (32)] When VIRTIO_F_DEVICE_STOPPED is negotiated,
>> +  indicates that the device has been stopped by the driver.
>> +
>>   \item[DEVICE_NEEDS_RESET (64)] Indicates that the device has experienced
>>     an error from which it can't recover.
>>   \end{description}
>> @@ -58,8 +61,9 @@ \section{\field{Device Status} Field}\label{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virtio Dev
>>   \ref{sec:General Initialization And Device Operation / Device
>>   Initialization}.
>>   The driver MUST NOT clear a
>> -\field{device status} bit.  If the driver sets the FAILED bit,
>> -the driver MUST later reset the device before attempting to re-initialize.
>> +\field{device status} bit other than DEVICE_STOPPED.  If the
>> +driver sets the FAILED bit, the driver MUST later reset the device
>> +before attempting to re-initialize.
>>   
>>   The driver SHOULD NOT rely on completion of operations of a
>>   device if DEVICE_NEEDS_RESET is set.
>> @@ -70,12 +74,28 @@ \section{\field{Device Status} Field}\label{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virtio Dev
>>   recover by issuing a reset.
>>   \end{note}
>>   
>> +The driver MUST NOT set or clear DEVICE_STOPPED when DRIVER_OK is not
>> +set. In order to stop the device, the driver MUST set DEVICE_STOPPED
>> +first and re-read status to check whether DEVICE_STOPPED is set by the
>> +device. In order to resume the device, the driver MUST clear
>> +DEVICE_STOPPED first and read status to ensure whether DEVICE_STOPPED
>> +is cleared by the device.
>> +
>>   \devicenormative{\subsection}{Device Status Field}{Basic Facilities of a Virtio Device / Device Status Field}
>>   The device MUST initialize \field{device status} to 0 upon reset.
>>   
>>   The device MUST NOT consume buffers or send any used buffer
>>   notifications to the driver before DRIVER_OK.
>>   
>> +The device MUST ignore DEVICE_STOPPED when DRIVER_OK is not set.
>> +
>> +When driver is trying to set DEVICE_STOPPED, the device MUST not
>> +process new avail requests and MUST complete all requests that is
>> +currently processing before setting DEVICE_STOPPED.
>> +
>> +The device MUST keep the config space unchanged when DEVICE_STOPPED is
>> +set.
>> +
>>   \label{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virtio Device / Device Status Field / DEVICENEEDSRESET}The device SHOULD set DEVICE_NEEDS_RESET when it enters an error state
>>   that a reset is needed.  If DRIVER_OK is set, after it sets DEVICE_NEEDS_RESET, the device
>>   MUST send a device configuration change notification to the driver.
>> @@ -6553,6 +6573,8 @@ \chapter{Reserved Feature Bits}\label{sec:Reserved Feature Bits}
>>     \item[VIRTIO_F_NOTIFICATION_DATA(38)] This feature indicates
>>     that the driver passes extra data (besides identifying the virtqueue)
>>     in its device notifications.
>> +  \item[VIRTIO_F_DEVICE_STOP(39)] This feature indicates that the
>> +  driver can stop and resume the device.
>>     See \ref{sec:Virtqueues / Driver notifications}~\nameref{sec:Virtqueues / Driver notifications}.
>>   \end{description}
>>   
>> -- 
>> 2.25.1


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      reply	other threads:[~2021-05-06  7:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-18  4:23 [virtio-comment] [PATCH RFC] virtio: introduce VIRTIO_F_DEVICE_STOP Jason Wang
2020-12-18 10:15 ` [virtio-comment] " Stefano Garzarella
2020-12-21  3:08   ` Jason Wang
2020-12-21 11:06     ` Stefano Garzarella
2020-12-22  2:38       ` Jason Wang
2020-12-21 21:33 ` [virtio-comment] " Halil Pasic
2020-12-22  2:36   ` Jason Wang
2020-12-22  6:50     ` Halil Pasic
2020-12-22  7:30       ` Jason Wang
2020-12-22 12:14         ` Cornelia Huck
2020-12-22 12:51           ` Jason Wang
2020-12-22 15:54             ` Cornelia Huck
2020-12-23  2:48               ` Jason Wang
2020-12-25  7:38                 ` Halil Pasic
2020-12-27 10:00                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-28  6:21                     ` Halil Pasic
2020-12-28  7:01                       ` Jason Wang
2020-12-28 12:30                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-29  9:04                           ` Jason Wang
2021-01-12 10:54                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-01-13  3:35                               ` Jason Wang
2020-12-29 13:35                         ` Halil Pasic
2020-12-30  8:15                           ` Jason Wang
2021-01-11 18:16                             ` Cornelia Huck
2021-01-12  3:27                               ` Jason Wang
2021-01-12 12:13                                 ` Cornelia Huck
2021-01-13  2:52                                   ` Jason Wang
2021-01-14 12:00                                     ` Cornelia Huck
2020-12-28  6:47                   ` Jason Wang
2020-12-29 13:20                     ` Halil Pasic
2020-12-30  8:03                       ` Jason Wang
2020-12-24  4:52             ` Halil Pasic
2020-12-24  5:51               ` Jason Wang
2020-12-25  3:18                 ` Halil Pasic
2020-12-25  6:45                   ` Jason Wang
2020-12-27 11:12                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-28  7:05                       ` Jason Wang
2020-12-28 12:27                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-29  8:57                           ` Jason Wang
2021-05-03  9:02 ` [virtio-comment] " Eugenio Perez Martin
2021-05-06  2:51   ` Jason Wang
2021-05-05 13:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-05-06  7:26   ` Jason Wang [this message]

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