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Sun, 10 Mar 2019 10:00:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/3] btrfs: Performance profiler support To: Qu Wenruo , Qu Wenruo , Anand Jain , linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org References: <20190306061907.29685-1-wqu@suse.com> <857277d9-7a16-cea0-13c4-aec74cb77064@oracle.com> <0e04dd2c-a7b0-c4ce-6340-79c90578f4b5@suse.com> <913b2ba4-5a3c-974e-10d0-26d65d4175ee@suse.com> From: Nikolay Borisov Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=nborisov@suse.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQINBFiKBz4BEADNHZmqwhuN6EAzXj9SpPpH/nSSP8YgfwoOqwrP+JR4pIqRK0AWWeWCSwmZ T7g+RbfPFlmQp+EwFWOtABXlKC54zgSf+uulGwx5JAUFVUIRBmnHOYi/lUiE0yhpnb1KCA7f u/W+DkwGerXqhhe9TvQoGwgCKNfzFPZoM+gZrm+kWv03QLUCr210n4cwaCPJ0Nr9Z3c582xc bCUVbsjt7BN0CFa2BByulrx5xD9sDAYIqfLCcZetAqsTRGxM7LD0kh5WlKzOeAXj5r8DOrU2 GdZS33uKZI/kZJZVytSmZpswDsKhnGzRN1BANGP8sC+WD4eRXajOmNh2HL4P+meO1TlM3GLl EQd2shHFY0qjEo7wxKZI1RyZZ5AgJnSmehrPCyuIyVY210CbMaIKHUIsTqRgY5GaNME24w7h TyyVCy2qAM8fLJ4Vw5bycM/u5xfWm7gyTb9V1TkZ3o1MTrEsrcqFiRrBY94Rs0oQkZvunqia c+NprYSaOG1Cta14o94eMH271Kka/reEwSZkC7T+o9hZ4zi2CcLcY0DXj0qdId7vUKSJjEep c++s8ncFekh1MPhkOgNj8pk17OAESanmDwksmzh1j12lgA5lTFPrJeRNu6/isC2zyZhTwMWs k3LkcTa8ZXxh0RfWAqgx/ogKPk4ZxOXQEZetkEyTFghbRH2BIwARAQABtCNOaWtvbGF5IEJv cmlzb3YgPG5ib3Jpc292QHN1c2UuY29tPokCOAQTAQIAIgUCWIo48QIbAwYLCQgHAwIGFQgC CQoLBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQcb6CRuU/KFc0eg/9GLD3wTQz9iZHMFbjiqTCitD7B6dTLV1C ddZVlC8Hm/TophPts1bWZORAmYIihHHI1EIF19+bfIr46pvfTu0yFrJDLOADMDH+Ufzsfy2v HSqqWV/nOSWGXzh8bgg/ncLwrIdEwBQBN9SDS6aqsglagvwFD91UCg/TshLlRxD5BOnuzfzI Leyx2c6YmH7Oa1R4MX9Jo79SaKwdHt2yRN3SochVtxCyafDlZsE/efp21pMiaK1HoCOZTBp5 VzrIP85GATh18pN7YR9CuPxxN0V6IzT7IlhS4Jgj0NXh6vi1DlmKspr+FOevu4RVXqqcNTSS E2rycB2v6cttH21UUdu/0FtMBKh+rv8+yD49FxMYnTi1jwVzr208vDdRU2v7Ij/TxYt/v4O8 V+jNRKy5Fevca/1xroQBICXsNoFLr10X5IjmhAhqIH8Atpz/89ItS3+HWuE4BHB6RRLM0gy8 T7rN6ja+KegOGikp/VTwBlszhvfLhyoyjXI44Tf3oLSFM+8+qG3B7MNBHOt60CQlMkq0fGXd mm4xENl/SSeHsiomdveeq7cNGpHi6i6ntZK33XJLwvyf00PD7tip/GUj0Dic/ZUsoPSTF/mG EpuQiUZs8X2xjK/AS/l3wa4Kz2tlcOKSKpIpna7V1+CMNkNzaCOlbv7QwprAerKYywPCoOSC 7P25Ag0EWIoHPgEQAMiUqvRBZNvPvki34O/dcTodvLSyOmK/MMBDrzN8Cnk302XfnGlW/YAQ csMWISKKSpStc6tmD+2Y0z9WjyRqFr3EGfH1RXSv9Z1vmfPzU42jsdZn667UxrRcVQXUgoKg QYx055Q2FdUeaZSaivoIBD9WtJq/66UPXRRr4H/+Y5FaUZx+gWNGmBT6a0S/GQnHb9g3nonD jmDKGw+YO4P6aEMxyy3k9PstaoiyBXnzQASzdOi39BgWQuZfIQjN0aW+Dm8kOAfT5i/yk59h VV6v3NLHBjHVw9kHli3jwvsizIX9X2W8tb1SefaVxqvqO1132AO8V9CbE1DcVT8fzICvGi42 FoV/k0QOGwq+LmLf0t04Q0csEl+h69ZcqeBSQcIMm/Ir+NorfCr6HjrB6lW7giBkQl6hhomn l1mtDP6MTdbyYzEiBFcwQD4terc7S/8ELRRybWQHQp7sxQM/Lnuhs77MgY/e6c5AVWnMKd/z MKm4ru7A8+8gdHeydrRQSWDaVbfy3Hup0Ia76J9FaolnjB8YLUOJPdhI2vbvNCQ2ipxw3Y3c KhVIpGYqwdvFIiz0Fej7wnJICIrpJs/+XLQHyqcmERn3s/iWwBpeogrx2Lf8AGezqnv9woq7 OSoWlwXDJiUdaqPEB/HmGfqoRRN20jx+OOvuaBMPAPb+aKJyle8zABEBAAGJAh8EGAECAAkF AliKBz4CGwwACgkQcb6CRuU/KFdacg/+M3V3Ti9JYZEiIyVhqs+yHb6NMI1R0kkAmzsGQ1jU zSQUz9AVMR6T7v2fIETTT/f5Oout0+Hi9cY8uLpk8CWno9V9eR/B7Ifs2pAA8lh2nW43FFwp IDiSuDbH6oTLmiGCB206IvSuaQCp1fed8U6yuqGFcnf0ZpJm/sILG2ECdFK9RYnMIaeqlNQm iZicBY2lmlYFBEaMXHoy+K7nbOuizPWdUKoKHq+tmZ3iA+qL5s6Qlm4trH28/fPpFuOmgP8P K+7LpYLNSl1oQUr+WlqilPAuLcCo5Vdl7M7VFLMq4xxY/dY99aZx0ZJQYFx0w/6UkbDdFLzN upT7NIN68lZRucImffiWyN7CjH23X3Tni8bS9ubo7OON68NbPz1YIaYaHmnVQCjDyDXkQoKC R82Vf9mf5slj0Vlpf+/Wpsv/TH8X32ajva37oEQTkWNMsDxyw3aPSps6MaMafcN7k60y2Wk/ TCiLsRHFfMHFY6/lq/c0ZdOsGjgpIK0G0z6et9YU6MaPuKwNY4kBdjPNBwHreucrQVUdqRRm RcxmGC6ohvpqVGfhT48ZPZKZEWM+tZky0mO7bhZYxMXyVjBn4EoNTsXy1et9Y1dU3HVJ8fod 5UqrNrzIQFbdeM0/JqSLrtlTcXKJ7cYFa9ZM2AP7UIN9n1UWxq+OPY9YMOewVfYtL8M= Message-ID: <9f96ea81-e52f-dc48-2bad-bcf9c0744e11@suse.com> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2019 12:00:05 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-btrfs-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org On 10.03.19 г. 11:56 ч., Qu Wenruo wrote: > > > On 2019/3/10 下午5:40, Nikolay Borisov wrote: >> >> >> On 10.03.19 г. 11:34 ч., Qu Wenruo wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 2019/3/10 下午5:29, Nikolay Borisov wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10.03.19 г. 5:08 ч., Anand Jain wrote: >>>>> >>>>>  I agree we need btrfs specific performance measurements and its >>>>>  my list too. >>>>> >>>>>  However my idea was to add it as a btrfs-progs subcommand such as >>>>> >>>>>    btrfs inspect perf ... >>>>> >>>>>  And implement by using the systemtap/perf/bpf/dtrace, as these >>>>>  can tap the kernel functions from the useland using which we >>>>>  can measure the time taken and no kernel changes will be required. >>>>>  But yes we need to update the btrfs-progs if we rename the kernel >>>>>  function, which I think is ok. >>>>> >>>>>  I was too early trying this with bpf before, probably there are >>>>>  more tools now to do that same thing. >>>> >>>> This is way too developer oriented to be included in the generic btrfs >>>> tools. Frankly bpf makes sense but only as a separate script being >>>> developed and possibly shared on github or whatnot so that other >>>> interested people can use it. However, integrating with btrfs-progs >>>> definitely seems the wrong thing to do. >>>> >>>> On the same note - I'm highly against this patchset landing in the kernel. >>> >>> Are you against the interface part or the btrfs specific perf part? >>> >>> For the first half, indeed the new sysfs is not good and I'm OK to move >>> to any more established interface. >>> >>> For the later half, if bfp/ftrace can do the same work, then I'm fine. >>> Otherwise the need is still here, both developer or experienced sys >>> admin will need this feature. >> >> I'm against this functionality being part of btrfs. What would be more >> useful is a set of bpf scripts which might very well be developed >> alongside the main project. They will be a lot more flexible also they >> will add overhead only when you really need them, whereas the current >> approach AFAIK (I might be wrong, correct me if so) always accumulates >> certain stats irrespective of whether the sys admin needs them or not? > > Since this patchset is mostly an RFC, I skipped a lot things like mount > option to skip all such events. > > But the bfp part is really a good direction for me to investigate. > If we can do the same work using more established facility, then I'm > completely fine to discard the patchset. The only thing which migth have to be patched in btrfs is to add the tree owner being part of struct extent_buffer { since there is no easy way to query it outside of btrfs. This can be gated behind an ifdef BTRFS_DEBUG . There is currently a very similar script in iovisor toolset: https://github.com/iovisor/bcc/blob/master/tools/funclatency.py it equates to what function_graph currently does but can easily be extended to mimic the logic in your patchset. I.e modify a map based on the owner of an extent buffer. > > Thanks, > Qu > >> At the very least you will sprinkle code such as : >> >> 'if (perf measurement enabled) ..... ' >> >> I'd really we didn't add this clutter. >> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Qu >>> >>> >