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From: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
To: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe.brucker@arm.com>,
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Subject: RE: [RFC 2/3] virtio-iommu: device probing and operations
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 07:59:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D190D7BAB1@SHSMSX101.ccr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a4df3472-449f-297f-2a18-b3a21affadee@arm.com>

> From: Jean-Philippe Brucker [mailto:jean-philippe.brucker@arm.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 11:06 PM
> >>>>   1. Attach device
> >>>>   ----------------
> >>>>
> >>>> struct virtio_iommu_req_attach {
> >>>> 	le32	address_space;
> >>>> 	le32	device;
> >>>> 	le32	flags/reserved;
> >>>> };
> >>>>
> >>>> Attach a device to an address space. 'address_space' is an identifier
> >>>> unique to the guest. If the address space doesn't exist in the IOMMU
> >>>
> >>> Based on your description this address space ID is per operation right?
> >>> MAP/UNMAP and page-table sharing should have different ID spaces...
> >>
> >> I think it's simpler if we keep a single IOASID space per virtio-iommu
> >> device, because the maximum number of address spaces (described by
> >> ioasid_bits) might be a restriction of the pIOMMU. For page-table
> sharing
> >> you still need to define which devices will share a page directory using
> >> ATTACH requests, though that interface is not set in stone.
> >
> > got you. yes VM is supposed to consume less IOASIDs than physically
> > available. It doesn’t hurt to have one IOASID space for both IOVA
> > map/unmap usages (one IOASID per device) and SVM usages (multiple
> > IOASIDs per device). The former is digested by software and the latter
> > will be bound to hardware.
> >
> 
> Hmm, I'm using address space indexed by IOASID for "classic" IOMMU, and
> then contexts indexed by PASID when talking about SVM. So in my mind an
> address space can have multiple sub-address-spaces (contexts). Number of
> IOASIDs is a limitation of the pIOMMU, and number of PASIDs is a
> limitation of the device. Therefore attaching devices to address spaces
> would update the number of available contexts in that address space. The
> terminology is not ideal, and I'd be happy to change it for something more
> clear.
> 

(sorry to pick up this old thread, as the .tex one is not good for review
and this thread provides necessary background for IOASID).

Hi, Jean,

I'd like to hear more clarification regarding the relationship between 
IOASID and PASID. When reading back above explanation, it looks
confusing to me now (though I might get the meaning months ago :/).
At least Intel VT-d only understands PASID (or you can think IOASID
=PASID). There is no such layered address space concept. Then for
map/unmap type request, do you intend to steal some PASIDs for
that purpose on such architecture (since IOASID is a mandatory field 
in map/unmap request)?

Thanks
Kevin
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Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-07 19:17 [RFC 0/3] virtio-iommu: a paravirtualized IOMMU Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:17 ` [RFC 1/3] virtio-iommu: firmware description of the virtual topology Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:17 ` [RFC 2/3] virtio-iommu: device probing and operations Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-18 10:26   ` Tian, Kevin
2017-04-18 18:45     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-18 18:45     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-21  9:02       ` Tian, Kevin
2017-04-24 15:05         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]         ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D190CB262D-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-24 15:05           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-08-21  7:59             ` Tian, Kevin [this message]
2017-08-21 12:00               ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-08-21 12:00               ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-08-21 12:00                 ` [virtio-dev] " Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]                 ` <454095c4-cae5-ad52-a459-5c9e2cce4047-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-22  6:24                   ` Tian, Kevin
2017-08-22 14:19                     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-08-22 14:19                     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-08-22 14:19                       ` [virtio-dev] " Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-08-23  2:23                       ` Tian, Kevin
2017-08-23  2:23                       ` Tian, Kevin
2017-08-23  2:23                         ` [virtio-dev] " Tian, Kevin
2017-08-22  6:24                 ` Tian, Kevin
2017-04-18 10:26   ` Tian, Kevin
2017-04-07 19:17 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:17 ` [RFC 3/3] virtio-iommu: future work Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-21  8:31   ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]   ` <20170407191747.26618-4-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-21  8:31     ` Tian, Kevin
2017-04-24 15:05       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-24 15:05       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-26 16:24     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-04-26 16:24   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-04-07 19:17 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:23 ` [RFC PATCH linux] iommu: Add virtio-iommu driver Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-06-16  8:48   ` [virtio-dev] " Bharat Bhushan
2017-06-16 11:36     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-06-16 11:36     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-06-16  8:48   ` Bharat Bhushan
2017-04-07 19:24 ` [RFC PATCH kvmtool 00/15] Add virtio-iommu Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:24   ` [RFC PATCH kvmtool 01/15] virtio: synchronize virtio-iommu headers with Linux Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:24   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:24   ` [RFC PATCH kvmtool 02/15] FDT: (re)introduce a dynamic phandle allocator Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:24   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:24   ` [RFC PATCH kvmtool 03/15] virtio: add virtio-iommu Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:24   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:24   ` [RFC PATCH kvmtool 04/15] Add a simple IOMMU Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:24   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:24   ` [RFC PATCH kvmtool 05/15] iommu: describe IOMMU topology in device-trees Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:24   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:24   ` [RFC PATCH kvmtool 06/15] irq: register MSI doorbell addresses Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:24   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:24   ` [RFC PATCH kvmtool 07/15] virtio: factor virtqueue initialization Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:24   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:24   ` [RFC PATCH kvmtool 08/15] virtio: add vIOMMU instance for virtio devices Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:24   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:24   ` [RFC PATCH kvmtool 09/15] virtio: access vring and buffers through IOMMU mappings Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:24   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:24   ` [RFC PATCH kvmtool 10/15] virtio-pci: translate MSIs with the virtual IOMMU Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:24   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:24   ` [RFC PATCH kvmtool 11/15] virtio: set VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM when necessary Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:24   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:24   ` [RFC PATCH kvmtool 12/15] vfio: add support for virtual IOMMU Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:24   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:24   ` [RFC PATCH kvmtool 13/15] virtio-iommu: debug via IPC Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:24   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:24   ` [RFC PATCH kvmtool 14/15] virtio-iommu: implement basic debug commands Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:24   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:24   ` [RFC PATCH kvmtool 15/15] virtio: use virtio-iommu when available Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 19:24   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-05-22  8:26   ` [RFC PATCH kvmtool 00/15] Add virtio-iommu Bharat Bhushan
     [not found]   ` <20170407192455.26814-1-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-22  8:26     ` Bharat Bhushan
2017-05-22 14:01       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]       ` <AM5PR0401MB2545FADDF2A7649DF0DB68309AF80-oQ3wXcTHOqrg6d/1FbYcvI3W/0Ik+aLCnBOFsp37pqbUKgpGm//BTAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-22 14:01         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-07 21:19 ` [RFC 0/3] virtio-iommu: a paravirtualized IOMMU Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-04-07 21:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-04-10 18:39   ` [virtio-dev] " Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-10 18:39   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-10 20:04     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-04-10 20:04     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-04-10  2:30 ` Need information on type 2 IOMMU valmiki
2017-04-12  9:06 ` [RFC 0/3] virtio-iommu: a paravirtualized IOMMU Jason Wang
2017-04-13  8:16   ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]   ` <a0920e37-a11e-784c-7d90-be6617ea7686-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-13  8:16     ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]       ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D190CA990E-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-13 13:12         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-13 13:12       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-12  9:06 ` Jason Wang
2017-04-13  8:41 ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found] ` <20170407191747.26618-1-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-07 19:17   ` [RFC 1/3] virtio-iommu: firmware description of the virtual topology Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]     ` <20170407191747.26618-2-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-18  9:51       ` Tian, Kevin
2017-04-18 18:41         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-21  8:43           ` Tian, Kevin
     [not found]             ` <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D190CB2570-0J0gbvR4kThpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-24 15:05               ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-24 15:05             ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-18 18:41         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-18  9:51     ` Tian, Kevin
2017-04-10  2:30   ` Need information on type 2 IOMMU valmiki
     [not found]     ` <1b48daab-c9e1-84d1-78a9-84d3e2001f32-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-10  4:19       ` Alex Williamson
2017-04-10  4:19     ` Alex Williamson
2017-04-13  8:41   ` [RFC 0/3] virtio-iommu: a paravirtualized IOMMU Tian, Kevin
2017-04-13 13:12     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2017-04-13 13:12     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker

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