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From: Khem Raj Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 22:16:33 -0700 Message-ID: To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 209.85.215.175 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: raj.khem@gmail.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on discovery X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:20:07 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on linuxtogo.org) Subject: Re: Why PREFERRED_VERSION setting of .conf overrules local.conf setting ? X-BeenThere: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org List-Id: Using the OpenEmbedded metadata to build Distributions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 05:17:09 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Chris Larson wrote: > On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Koen Kooi wro= te: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 10-08-10 01:15, Graham Gower wrote: >> > On 10 August 2010 04:31, Frans Meulenbroeks >> wrote: >> >> 2010/8/9 Chris Larson : >> >>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 6:26 AM, Hauser, Wolfgang (external) < >> >>> Wolfgang.Hauser.external@eads.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Hello, >> >>>> >> >>>> I want to change some used versions of packages, so I added a >> >>>> PREFERRED_VERSION_=3D"xxx" for the packages I want to have= a >> >>>> special(newer) version to be used. >> >>>> >> >>>> But e. g. for busybox the version defined in the used .conf= is >> >>>> used instead of my setting in local.conf. >> >>>> >> >>>> Should local.conf not overrule .conf ?? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Conceptually, local should override everything, as it's the "most >> specific" >> >>> information available, but from a technical standpoint, we can't par= se >> the >> >>> machine and distro configs until local.conf is parsed, as that's >> usually >> >>> where the MACHINE and DISTRO are set. =A0You can use a 'local' overr= ide >> to get >> >>> around it, or you can ask the distro/machine maintainer to use ?=3D >> >>> assignments (set only if unset). >> >>> >> >>> PREFERRED_VERSION__local =3D "xxx" is how you use the overr= ide. >> >> >> >> The real solution woud be to either temporary store the >> >> PREFERRED_VERSION and apply it later on. >> >> Alternately we could parse local.conf twice, the first time ignoring >> >> the PREFERRED lines, and the 2nd time only looking at these. >> >> Yet another solution could be to split local.conf into two pieces, on= e >> >> with settings like MACHINE and DISTRO, the other one with the >> >> overrides. >> > >> > Wouldn't it be far simpler to fix the distro conf file(s)? E.g. apply >> > something like this: >> > s/^PREFERRED_VERSION_\([a-z]*\) =3D/PREFERRED_VERSION_\1 ?=3D/ >> >> What's the point of setting a preferred version at all if you make it a >> weak assignment? >> The distro nearly always knows better and if you want to use a different >> version, sending a patch to change that version for review isn't exactly >> rocket science. > > > How about having decent usability? =A0The user asking for something and n= ot > getting it is completely unintuitive. =A0If the user doesn't know what th= ey > want, they won't request a specific version. =A0If they do request it, th= ey > should get it, anything else is an OE usability issue. why not use _local override and I think if user want to alter a distro choice I consider that user to be not a beginner. > -- > Christopher Larson > clarson at kergoth dot com > Founder - BitBake, OpenEmbedded, OpenZaurus > Maintainer - Tslib > Senior Software Engineer, Mentor Graphics > _______________________________________________ > Openembedded-devel mailing list > Openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org > http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openembedded-devel >