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From: Pascal Van Leeuwen <pvanleeuwen@insidesecure.com>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
Cc: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@c-s.fr>,
	"linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org" <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: another testmgr question
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 09:34:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AM6PR09MB3523A8A4BEDDF2B59A7B9A09D2020@AM6PR09MB3523.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKv+Gu_Pxv97rpt7Ju0EdtFnXqp3zoYfHtm1Q51oJSGEAZmyDA@mail.gmail.com>

> All userland clients of the in-kernel crypto use it specifically to
> access h/w accelerators, given that software crypto doesn't require
> the higher privilege level (no point in issuing those AES CPU
> instructions from the kernel if you can issue them in your program
> directly)
>
> Basically, what is used is a socket interface that can block on
> read()/write(). So the userspace program doesn't need to be aware of
> the asynchronous nature, it is just frozen while the calls are being
> handled by the hardware.
>
With all due respect, but if the userland application is indeed
*frozen* while the calls are being handled, then that seems like its
pretty useless - for symmetric crypto, anyway - as performance would be
dominated by latency, not throughput.
Hardware acceleration would almost always lose that compared to a local
software implementation.
I certainly wouldn't want such an operation to end up at my driver!

Which brings up a question: is there some way for a driver to indicate
something like "don't use me unless you can seriously pipeline your
requests"?

Regards,
Pascal van Leeuwen
Silicon IP Architect, Multi-Protocol Engines @ Inside Secure
www.insidesecure.com


  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-24  9:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <AM6PR09MB3523CED0B1587FCBDE4095A0D2010@AM6PR09MB3523.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
     [not found] ` <20190523185833.GA243994@google.com>
2019-05-23 19:32   ` another testmgr question Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-05-23 20:05     ` Eric Biggers
2019-05-23 21:43       ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-05-23 23:48         ` Eric Biggers
2019-05-24  8:44           ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-05-24  8:46             ` Christophe Leroy
2019-05-24  8:49               ` Jeffrey Walton
2019-05-24  9:42                 ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-05-24  9:21               ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-05-24  9:25                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-05-24  9:34                   ` Pascal Van Leeuwen [this message]
2019-05-24  9:45                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-05-24  9:57                       ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-05-24 11:09                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-05-27  9:52                           ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-05-24 10:13                       ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-05-24 10:43                         ` Kamil Konieczny
2019-05-24 10:54                           ` Christophe Leroy
2019-05-27  9:44                       ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-05-27  9:49                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-05-27 10:04                           ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-05-27 10:28                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-05-27 10:43                               ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-05-27 10:57                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-05-27 12:22                                   ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-05-27 14:59                                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-05-27 15:56                                       ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-05-27 16:21                                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-05-27 20:15                                           ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-05-27 12:41                                   ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-05-27 14:45                                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-05-27 15:16                                       ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-05-27 15:24                                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-05-27 20:46                                           ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-05-25  1:22                   ` Eric Biggers
2019-05-27  9:55                     ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-05-24  9:27                 ` Stephan Mueller
2019-05-24  5:24         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-05-24  7:04           ` Kamil Konieczny
2019-05-24  7:47           ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-05-24  9:15             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-05-24  9:28               ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-05-24  6:21         ` Christophe Leroy
2019-05-24  8:04           ` Pascal Van Leeuwen
2019-05-24  6:14       ` Jeffrey Walton
2019-05-24  8:00         ` Pascal Van Leeuwen

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