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From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: mgorman@suse.de, James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, colin.king@canonical.com,
	raghu.prabhu13@gmail.com, jack@suse.cz, chris.mason@oracle.com,
	cl@linux.com, penberg@kernel.org, riel@redhat.com,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] mm: vmscan: If kswapd has been running too long, allow it to sleep
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 14:44:48 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTikLuWPEt7MitUYdJtzqyBSOkz2zxg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DD31B6E.8040502@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:05 AM, KOSAKI Motohiro
<kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
>> It would be better to put cond_resched after balance_pgdat?
>>
>> diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
>> index 292582c..61c45d0 100644
>> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
>> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
>> @@ -2753,6 +2753,7 @@ static int kswapd(void *p)
>>                 if (!ret) {
>>                         trace_mm_vmscan_kswapd_wake(pgdat->node_id,
>> order);
>>                         order = balance_pgdat(pgdat,
>> order,&classzone_idx);
>> +                       cond_resched();
>>                 }
>>         }
>>         return 0;
>>
>>>>> While it appears unlikely, there are bad conditions which can result
>>>
>>> in cond_resched() being avoided.
>
> Every reclaim priority decreasing or every shrink_zone() calling makes more
> fine grained preemption. I think.

It could be.
But in direct reclaim case, I have a concern about losing pages
reclaimed to other tasks by preemption.

Hmm,, anyway, we also needs test.
Hmm,, how long should we bother them(Colins and James)?
First of all, Let's fix one just between us and ask test to them and
send the last patch to akpm.

1. shrink_slab
2. right after balance_pgdat
3. shrink_zone
4. reclaim priority decreasing routine.

Now, I vote 1) and 2).

Mel, KOSAKI?
-- 
Kind regards,
Minchan Kim

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From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: mgorman@suse.de, James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, colin.king@canonical.com,
	raghu.prabhu13@gmail.com, jack@suse.cz, chris.mason@oracle.com,
	cl@linux.com, penberg@kernel.org, riel@redhat.com,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] mm: vmscan: If kswapd has been running too long, allow it to sleep
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 14:44:48 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTikLuWPEt7MitUYdJtzqyBSOkz2zxg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DD31B6E.8040502@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:05 AM, KOSAKI Motohiro
<kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
>> It would be better to put cond_resched after balance_pgdat?
>>
>> diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
>> index 292582c..61c45d0 100644
>> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
>> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
>> @@ -2753,6 +2753,7 @@ static int kswapd(void *p)
>>                 if (!ret) {
>>                         trace_mm_vmscan_kswapd_wake(pgdat->node_id,
>> order);
>>                         order = balance_pgdat(pgdat,
>> order,&classzone_idx);
>> +                       cond_resched();
>>                 }
>>         }
>>         return 0;
>>
>>>>> While it appears unlikely, there are bad conditions which can result
>>>
>>> in cond_resched() being avoided.
>
> Every reclaim priority decreasing or every shrink_zone() calling makes more
> fine grained preemption. I think.

It could be.
But in direct reclaim case, I have a concern about losing pages
reclaimed to other tasks by preemption.

Hmm,, anyway, we also needs test.
Hmm,, how long should we bother them(Colins and James)?
First of all, Let's fix one just between us and ask test to them and
send the last patch to akpm.

1. shrink_slab
2. right after balance_pgdat
3. shrink_zone
4. reclaim priority decreasing routine.

Now, I vote 1) and 2).

Mel, KOSAKI?
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From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: mgorman@suse.de, James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, colin.king@canonical.com,
	raghu.prabhu13@gmail.com, jack@suse.cz, chris.mason@oracle.com,
	cl@linux.com, penberg@kernel.org, riel@redhat.com,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] mm: vmscan: If kswapd has been running too long, allow it to sleep
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 14:44:48 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTikLuWPEt7MitUYdJtzqyBSOkz2zxg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DD31B6E.8040502@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:05 AM, KOSAKI Motohiro
<kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
>> It would be better to put cond_resched after balance_pgdat?
>>
>> diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
>> index 292582c..61c45d0 100644
>> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
>> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
>> @@ -2753,6 +2753,7 @@ static int kswapd(void *p)
>>                 if (!ret) {
>>                         trace_mm_vmscan_kswapd_wake(pgdat->node_id,
>> order);
>>                         order = balance_pgdat(pgdat,
>> order,&classzone_idx);
>> +                       cond_resched();
>>                 }
>>         }
>>         return 0;
>>
>>>>> While it appears unlikely, there are bad conditions which can result
>>>
>>> in cond_resched() being avoided.
>
> Every reclaim priority decreasing or every shrink_zone() calling makes more
> fine grained preemption. I think.

It could be.
But in direct reclaim case, I have a concern about losing pages
reclaimed to other tasks by preemption.

Hmm,, anyway, we also needs test.
Hmm,, how long should we bother them(Colins and James)?
First of all, Let's fix one just between us and ask test to them and
send the last patch to akpm.

1. shrink_slab
2. right after balance_pgdat
3. shrink_zone
4. reclaim priority decreasing routine.

Now, I vote 1) and 2).

Mel, KOSAKI?
-- 
Kind regards,
Minchan Kim

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-18  5:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-13 14:03 [PATCH 0/4] Reduce impact to overall system of SLUB using high-order allocations V2 Mel Gorman
2011-05-13 14:03 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-13 14:03 ` [PATCH 1/4] mm: vmscan: Correct use of pgdat_balanced in sleeping_prematurely Mel Gorman
2011-05-13 14:03   ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-13 14:28   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-13 14:28     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-14 16:30   ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-14 16:30     ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-16 14:30   ` Rik van Riel
2011-05-16 14:30     ` Rik van Riel
2011-05-13 14:03 ` [PATCH 2/4] mm: slub: Do not wake kswapd for SLUBs speculative high-order allocations Mel Gorman
2011-05-13 14:03   ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-16 21:10   ` David Rientjes
2011-05-16 21:10     ` David Rientjes
2011-05-18  6:09     ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-18  6:09       ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-18 17:21       ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-18 17:21         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-13 14:03 ` [PATCH 3/4] mm: slub: Do not take expensive steps " Mel Gorman
2011-05-13 14:03   ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-16 21:16   ` David Rientjes
2011-05-16 21:16     ` David Rientjes
2011-05-17  8:42     ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-17  8:42       ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-17 13:51       ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-17 13:51         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-17 16:22         ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-17 16:22           ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-17 17:52           ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-17 17:52             ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-17 19:35             ` David Rientjes
2011-05-17 19:35               ` David Rientjes
2011-05-17 19:31       ` David Rientjes
2011-05-17 19:31         ` David Rientjes
2011-05-13 14:03 ` [PATCH 4/4] mm: vmscan: If kswapd has been running too long, allow it to sleep Mel Gorman
2011-05-13 14:03   ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-15 10:27   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-15 10:27     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-16  4:21     ` James Bottomley
2011-05-16  4:21       ` James Bottomley
2011-05-16  5:04       ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-16  5:04         ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-16  8:45         ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-16  8:45           ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-16  8:45           ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-16  8:58           ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-16  8:58             ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-16  8:58             ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-16 10:27             ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-16 10:27               ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-16 10:27               ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-16 23:50               ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-16 23:50                 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-17  0:48                 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-17  0:48                   ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-17  0:48                   ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-17 10:38                 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-17 10:38                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-17 10:38                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-17 13:50                   ` Colin Ian King
2011-05-17 13:50                     ` Colin Ian King
2011-05-17 16:15                     ` [PATCH] mm: vmscan: Correctly check if reclaimer should schedule during shrink_slab Mel Gorman
2011-05-17 16:15                       ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-18  0:45                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-18  0:45                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-19  0:03                       ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-19  0:03                         ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-19  0:03                         ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-19  0:09                       ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-19  0:09                         ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-19  0:09                         ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-19 11:36                         ` Colin Ian King
2011-05-19 11:36                           ` Colin Ian King
2011-05-20  0:06                           ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-20  0:06                             ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-20  0:06                             ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-18  4:19                     ` [PATCH 4/4] mm: vmscan: If kswapd has been running too long, allow it to sleep Minchan Kim
2011-05-18  4:19                       ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-18  7:39                       ` Colin Ian King
2011-05-18  7:39                         ` Colin Ian King
2011-05-18  4:09                   ` James Bottomley
2011-05-18  4:09                     ` James Bottomley
2011-05-18  1:05                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-18  1:05                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-18  5:44                   ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2011-05-18  5:44                     ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-18  5:44                     ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-18  6:05                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-18  6:05                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-18  9:58                     ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-18  9:58                       ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-18  9:58                       ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-18 22:55                       ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-18 22:55                         ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-18 23:54                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-18 23:54                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-18  0:26               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-18  0:26                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-18  9:57                 ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-18  9:57                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-16  8:45     ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-16  8:45       ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-16 14:30   ` Rik van Riel
2011-05-16 14:30     ` Rik van Riel
2011-05-13 15:19 ` [PATCH 0/4] Reduce impact to overall system of SLUB using high-order allocations V2 James Bottomley
2011-05-13 15:19   ` James Bottomley
2011-05-13 15:19   ` James Bottomley
2011-05-13 15:52   ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-13 15:52     ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-13 15:21 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-13 15:21   ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-13 15:43   ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-13 15:43     ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-14  8:34 ` Colin Ian King
2011-05-14  8:34   ` Colin Ian King
2011-05-16  8:37   ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-16  8:37     ` Mel Gorman
2011-05-16 11:24     ` Colin Ian King
2011-05-16 11:24       ` Colin Ian King

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