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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: Fix powerTOP regression with 2.6.39-rc5
Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 13:51:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTim9YvResB+PwRp7QTK-a5VNg2PvmQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1304713252.25414.2532.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com>

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
>
> I strongly NACK this!

Doesn't matter.

Binary compatibility is more important.

And if binaries don't use the interface to parse the format (or just
parse it wrongly - see the fairly recent example of adding uuid's to
/proc/self/mountinfo), then it's a regression.

And regressions get reverted, unless there are security issues or
similar that makes us go "Oh Gods, we really have to break things".

I don't understand why this simple logic is so hard for some kernel
developers to understand. Reality matters. Your personal wishes matter
NOT AT ALL.

If you made an interface that can be used without parsing the
interface description, then we're stuck with the interface. Theory
simply doesn't matter.

You could help fix the tools, and try to avoid the compatibility
issues that way. There aren't that many of them.

                         Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-06 20:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-06 20:08 Fix powerTOP regression with 2.6.39-rc5 Arjan van de Ven
2011-05-06 20:20 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-06 20:51   ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2011-05-06 21:10     ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-06 21:24       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-06 21:14     ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-06 21:28       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-06 21:29     ` Arjan van de Ven
2011-05-06 21:57       ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-07  6:58     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-07 10:45       ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-07 14:44         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-07 17:20           ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-07 17:59             ` Arjan van de Ven
2011-05-08 21:08               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-08 21:56                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2011-05-07 19:00             ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-10  3:07               ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-10  4:44                 ` Dave Chinner
2011-05-10  5:39                   ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-10  7:36                     ` Dave Chinner
2011-05-10  7:54                 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-10  8:09                 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-10  8:32                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2011-05-10  8:44                     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-10  9:14                       ` Pekka Enberg
2011-05-10  8:41                 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-10 13:06                   ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-11 21:51                     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-11 22:36                       ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-17  7:15                       ` Michael Rubin
2011-05-17 11:19                         ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-17 13:24                           ` David Ahern
2011-05-17 13:27                             ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-17 13:30                               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-10  8:47                 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-10 10:33                   ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-10 19:13                     ` David Sharp
2011-05-09 23:37             ` David Sharp
2011-05-10  7:39               ` Ingo Molnar

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