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From: Andrei Warkentin <andreiw@motorola.com>
To: Arindam Nath <arindam.nath@amd.com>
Cc: "Gao, Yunpeng" <yunpeng.gao@intel.com>,
	"linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"arnd@arndb.de" <arnd@arndb.de>, Chris Ball <cjb@laptop.org>
Subject: Re: SET_BLOCK_COUNT-bounded multiblock transfers
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 12:29:36 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTimDsWGJEcODuK_TA8otA+GhTt53XQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinuUXnhqCRrGyiyv7hdA1SBHVFbLw@mail.gmail.com>

+Arindam (This is the patch set I mentioned)

On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 2:10 AM, Andrei Warkentin <andreiw@motorola.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Chris Ball <cjb@laptop.org> wrote:
>>
>> If we've seen a card that freaks out and loses significant bandwidth, that
>> would be a good reason to start with a whitelist.  If all the data we have
>> suggests that it's performance-wise either a win or a no-op, that's a fine
>> reason to push it to mmc-next with a blacklist approach and change our
>> minds later if our knowledge gets updated.  Does that help?
>>
>
> Yes, it does, thanks! Basically so far -
>
> (a) amazing boost for Sandisk eMMCs
> (b) synthetic tests showed no-op for Toshiba (a derivative of Arnd's
> flashbench, I'll put it up on GitHub as soon as my hands get to it),
> but more realistic test (via SQLite transactions on top of fs) showed
> slight deterioration. I'm bringing it up with the vendor to get a
> clear picture why and if they are doing anything to address it.
> (c) I am going to try to dig up some discrete MMCs (hard beasts to
> come by these days) and try with that.
> (d) I am going to dig up a few SDXCs and try them out.
>
> My current theory is that the CMD23 for multiblock should have no
> effect on the really braindead cards, and could have deterioration on
> cards that somehow optimize the CMD12 path (for example, the T eMMC
> optimize consecutive multiblock writes).
>
> At any rate, I'll decouple CMD23 support from multiblock CMD23 use...
>
> Yunpeng, I'm curious, what vendors did you have in mind when you
> suggested in your original email to use the CMD23 multiblock stuff?
>
> Thanks again,
> A
>

  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-15 17:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-14  0:38 SET_BLOCK_COUNT-bounded multiblock transfers Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-14  0:03 ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-14  9:05   ` Gao, Yunpeng
2011-04-14 22:58     ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-14 23:18       ` Chris Ball
2011-04-15  7:10         ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-15 17:29           ` Andrei Warkentin [this message]
2011-04-14  0:38 ` [RFC 1/3] MMC: use CMD23 for multiblock transfers when we can Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-14  0:38 ` [RFC 2/3] MMC: Implement MMC_CAP_CMD23 for SDHCI Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-14  0:38 ` [RFC 3/3] MMC: Block CMD23 support for UHS104/SDXC cards Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-15 23:51 ` [patchv2 1/3] MMC: Use CMD23 for multiblock transfers when we can Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-15 23:51 ` [patchv2 2/3] MMC: Implement MMC_CAP_CMD23 for SDHCI Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-15 23:51 ` [patchv2 3/3] MMC: Block CMD23 support for UHS104/SDXC cards Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-16 10:40 ` CMD23 plumbing and support patchset Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-21  1:44   ` Chris Ball
2011-04-21  6:29     ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-21  6:30       ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-22  3:53         ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-23  2:51           ` Chris Ball
2011-04-26 23:30             ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-27  2:10   ` CMD23 plumbing patchset Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-27  2:10     ` [[v4] 1/5] MMC: Add/remove quirks conditional support Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-27  2:10       ` [[v4] 2/5] MMC: Use CMD23 for multiblock transfers when we can Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-27  2:10         ` [[v4] 3/5] MMC: Implement MMC_CAP_CMD23 for SDHCI Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-27  2:10           ` [[v4] 4/5] MMC: Block CMD23 support for UHS104/SDXC cards Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-27  2:10             ` [[v4] 5/5] MMC: SDHCI AutoCMD23 support Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-27  5:49               ` Nath, Arindam
2011-04-27  5:59                 ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-27  6:02                   ` Nath, Arindam
2011-04-27  6:05                     ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-28  8:34                       ` Nath, Arindam
2011-04-28 19:09                         ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-29  5:34                           ` Nath, Arindam
2011-05-19  2:37         ` [[v4] 2/5] MMC: Use CMD23 for multiblock transfers when we can Jaehoon Chung
2011-05-19 17:01           ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-20  4:38             ` Jaehoon Chung
     [not found]               ` <BANLkTik72KgftDWz6aNn=zGDqj1uMpwnYw@mail.gmail.com>
2011-05-20  6:54                 ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-20  9:05                   ` Jaehoon Chung
2011-05-23 12:40                   ` Jaehoon Chung
2011-05-23 19:25                     ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-23 19:33                       ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-23 19:34                     ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-23 20:45                       ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-24  0:07                       ` Jaehoon Chung
2011-04-29 23:25     ` CMD23 plumbing patchset Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-19 21:46     ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-23 20:06       ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-25  2:51         ` Chris Ball
2011-05-23 20:06       ` [v6 1/5] MMC: Add/remove quirks conditional support Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-23 20:06       ` [v6 2/5] MMC: Use CMD23 for multiblock transfers when we can Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-23 20:06       ` [v6 3/5] MMC: Implement MMC_CAP_CMD23 for SDHCI Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-23 20:06       ` [v6 4/5] MMC: Block CMD23 support for UHS104/SDXC cards Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-24  6:01         ` Nath, Arindam
2011-05-23 20:06       ` [v6 5/5] MMC: SDHCI AutoCMD23 support Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-24 23:27         ` Chris Ball
2011-05-25  0:37           ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-19 21:46     ` [v5 1/5] MMC: Add/remove quirks conditional support Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-19 21:46     ` [v5 2/5] MMC: Use CMD23 for multiblock transfers when we can Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-20 10:29       ` Jaehoon Chung
2011-05-20 18:12         ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-19 21:46     ` [v5 3/5] MMC: Implement MMC_CAP_CMD23 for SDHCI Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-19 21:46     ` [v5 4/5] MMC: Block CMD23 support for UHS104/SDXC cards Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-20 10:38       ` Nath, Arindam
2011-05-20 18:09         ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-19 21:46     ` [v5 5/5] MMC: SDHCI AutoCMD23 support Andrei Warkentin
2011-05-20 10:46       ` Nath, Arindam
2011-05-20 18:08         ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-16 10:40 ` [patchv3 1/5] MMC: Add/remove quirks conditional support Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-16 10:40 ` [patchv3 2/5] MMC: Use CMD23 for multiblock transfers when we can Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-17 17:23   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-17 19:27     ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-19  3:44     ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-19  7:39       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-19 15:18         ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-16 10:40 ` [patchv3 3/5] MMC: Implement MMC_CAP_CMD23 for SDHCI Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-16 10:40 ` [patchv3 4/5] MMC: Block CMD23 support for UHS104/SDXC cards Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-16 16:19   ` Nath, Arindam
2011-04-16 23:00     ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-16 23:38   ` [PATCH] " Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-16 10:40 ` [patchv3 5/5] MMC: SDHCI AutoCMD23 support Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-17 17:25   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-17 19:31     ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-19  3:05       ` Andrei Warkentin
2011-04-19  3:19         ` Nath, Arindam
2011-04-19  3:32           ` Andrei Warkentin

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